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I would do any combination of 12+extra picks. If it was 33, 65 I would just go true BPA on 12, 33, 36, 52, 67 targeting #1 WR (maybe Corey Davis), #1 CB (lots of options), 5T, TE, QB, S. Maybe something like 12 - WR - Davis/Williams 33 - CB - Gareon Conley 36 - 5T - Malik McDowell 52 - TE - Evan Engram 67 - S - Desmond King OR 12 - 5T - Jon Allen 33 - WR - Curtis Samuel 36 - CB - Marlon Humphrey 52 - QB - Mahomes/Webb/Peterman 67 - TE - Jordan Leggett If we wound up with your 2nd group, I'd be happy as horsefeathers. But I don't see Humphrey making it out of the 1st, or Mahomes either.

Yeah, I agree 100%. Because if Darnold and Rosen are what they're expected to be, the cost to move up to 1 or 2 will be insanely high(if we aren't there). Luckily, there's still Allen, Browning, maybe Jackson, that all look to be 1st round types too.

He's a notorious slow starter, isn't he? Hopefully, he doesn't get even more fucked up if he starts off poor.

Chesny Young can horsefeathering hit. Mark Zagunis can too. Victor Caratini can hit. horsefeathering John Andreoli is p!aying his ass off in the WBC. Ian Happ can really horsefeathering hit. Eloy can horsefeathers it, he's probably the next Stanton. Maybe even Manny lol. We have the best lineup in baseball. We just won the World Series. Theo is a [expletive] living, walking, breathing, cheat code. As Cub fans, we fart in your general direction, you other MLB peasants.

I just keep seeing Hankins and Logan sitting there, thinking we get involved. I think you can get one of them, keep Houston if you don't draft over him, and still have a solid amount of emergency money, for a Sitton type of move. Not only have we heard nothing about the Bears on those guys, but nothing even on those positions. I'm not holding my breath. Double

I just keep seeing Hankins and Logan sitting there, thinking we get involved. I think you can get one of them, keep Houston if you don't draft over him, and still have a solid amount of emergency money, for a Sitton type of move. Not only have we heard nothing about the Bears on those guys, but nothing even on those positions. I'm not holding my breath. Oh, I know its wishful thinking.

At this point you have to keep Houston. Even if they still bring back Acho at a small salary, they don't have the depth there. Maybe that changes after the draft. Last year, they left quite a bit unspent going into Training Camp and then were able to sweep in quickly and sign Sitton to a big deal after 53 man cuts. Could see something like that again, or you just roll forward cap. I just keep seeing Hankins and Logan sitting there, thinking we get involved. I think you can get one of them, keep Houston if you don't draft over him, and still have a solid amount of emergency money, for a Sitton type of move.

Current Cap Hits.... Glennon-14 Sims-6.333 Demps-4.239 Cooper-5 Amukamara-7 Others- Wheaton(2-11, 5G), Wright(1-4, counting incentives), Banks, Jones, Compton So, if we started off with 51.2 mill to spend, and you saved 12.5 by cutting Jay....I'm going to use Wright at 4, Wheaton at 3, and the others are minimum level guys. That's 43.6 spent. Leaving 20.1. Of which, 9.6 is the draft pool. So, we've got a bit over 10 mill of cap space. But, have 5 mill of Royal and 5 mill of Houston to cut. Plus, a savings of 3 on Porter. We are probably done with entertaining large FA this year. But, we've definitely got flexibility to add anything out there, if we saw fit....

What would you take to swap spots with Jax to give them their choice? The famous draft chart says #4 + 2nd = #3 + 4th + 5th, but I can't see that happening. The other "Browns" chart shows the difference in value to be less than any draft pick. I'd think a 4th, maybe a 3rd at most. I hate saying it, but I just don't think we're going to have lots of leverage. I keep trying to think of scenarios where we CAN trade back...... Maybe the Jets want to pass the Jags to get Fournette? Maybe the Panthers at 8(even if its not their MO), want to pass them up for Fournette too? Maybe Cleveland thinks they need to move from 12 to 3 to grab Trubisky? Maybe the Cardinals think the same at 13? At any rate, trading with Cleveland would be awesome. Even if the chart prices are a bit high foir THIS draft.(think it'll be depressed with lots of talent in same value range) Options with Cleveland, moving down to 12....33, 52, 65, 108, 142, their own picks next year, Eagles and Texans 2nds, Panthers and Patriots 4ths. That's their group of picks in the top 4 rounds over the next 2 years. If you take a bit off full value, due to lack of interest in teams moving up.... Would you trade 3 for 12, 33, and 65? Or for 12, 52, 108, and the Browns 2nd and 3rd next year? Lots of other ways to get into the right range using their picks too. How about not even getting 12 lol? The Browns could send 33, 52, their 1st and 2nd next year, and one of the Texans or Eagles 2nds....

Am I missing anyone? QB Glennon(3-45, 18G, 14M Cap Hit) WR Wheaton(2-?) Wright(1-4) TE Sims(3-18, 10G, 6.333 Cap Hit) OT Compton LB Jones CB Amukamara(1-7, 7G, 7M Cap Hit) Cooper(3-16, 8G, 5M Cap Hit) Banks S Demps(3-13.5, 5G, 4.239 Cap Hit) I'm unsure of cap hits on some of these guys. At any rate, I'd venture to say we still have 10-15 mill or so, plus the rookie pool. QB- From where we were, versus now? Same, I guess? Maybe a bit better, since Jay is so injury-prone? Personally, I do think Glennon has more upside than Hoyer anyway. Do we address QB early in the draft? I honestly have no clue. TE- The Sims signing is the worst signing so far. WTF? Seriously, he gets paid like Doyle and Bennett? No idea why. But, I'd venture to say we obviously like him and maybe even to the extent we don't draft a TE, based on what we gave him. Hopefully, we still take advantage of such a loaded class....I guess he's not even a blocking TE, so this is hard to compare to Paulsen.... WR- We're definitely worse. Losing Alshon hurts. I don't know why we didn't grab Pryor. Supposedly there are character issues. Individually, I like the Wheaton and Wright signings. But, this puts way too much stock in Meredith and White, IMO. If you add Patterson and/or a pick to this mix, I guess its possible they become a serviceable group altogether. Still, its hard to say they're giving Glennon a great shot.... CB- We're better. Not as good as we could be, but we're better. Cooper really intrigues me. I could even see him sliding over to Safety, if needed. Prince is solid. Just hope he stays healthy. S- The Demps contract is good. Not sure why we didn't grab Swearinger or Harmon though, since they're obviously much younger. Still, Demps improves the group by a good bit. So, the team is improved. Not by as much as it could have been. But, there's going to be a massive amount of cap space next year too and there's still more FA signings and the draft, to go..... That said, what are we currently? Over/Under 5.5? I'd flip a coin. Biggest Needs as of Now? QB- Although I'd be extremely surprised to see us take one at 3. Relatively surprised at 36. My guess is we wind up with Peterman or Kaaya in the 3rd or 4th and take one in the 1st next year. WR- This is a larger need than it had been. I'll be surprised if its not addressed further this off season. But, it could just be via FA. TE- I still think we need an upgrade here. But spending that amount on Sims makes me wonder if Pace thinks of this as an area of need. OT- We sniffed around Wagner and Okung. So, its on the radar. Depending on how we finish off FA, I could see a 2nd or 3rd being spent here. DL- There's solid guys available in FA. We're linked to Jonathan Allen. I'm sure this is still being addressed. CB- Great draft class, feel confident we'll draft a guy. I doubt its at 3 now though. S- Yeah, this isn't a strong area of the team. But, unless Adams or Hooker is a Bear, I doubt we use anything earlier than a 4th to address the spot. Maybe not at all. In order, I'd list the needs as.....QB, WR, OT, CB, DL, TE, and S.

I'd love to trade down a bit and get someone from a group of Solomon Thomas, one of the safeties or Lattimore. Seems like they're all a bit below the third pick in terms of value. That'd be ideal. Pick up an extra 2nd and still get ANY of that group would be awesome.

I still want to punch him in the face, but Leming made a great point, in connecting some dots. We've not been connected to any D-Line guys, like Hankins, Poe, or Logan. Allen must have passed his team physicals, because he's got second interviews with us AND Jax too. Coincidence? Defensive line could be where our first pick is dedicated to. Either Allen or Solomon Thomas. I wouldn't be against either. Although I think I'd prefer Thomas, to be honest.

Well it became a necessity when he struck out on most of his top targets. Can this hypothetical WR returm kicks? Would have preferred only one of Wright or Wheaton + Patterson I wonder if we're even out on Patterson? I know Wheaton can return kicks, but I'd kind of like to see Patterson still added......Granted, that doesn't leave room for a WR thru the draft.

I know Pace is copying Theo now. He's just Feldmaning the horsefeathers out of players now. I like the fact there's plenty of flexibility. I see what he's trying to accomplish. I just don't think this approach was a necessity. At any rate, I can see the secondary being relatively solid. Definitely like the idea of taking a WR by the 4th now though......

They just had a second meeting with Jonathan Allen. While I agree that CB seems out at 3, I don't think it means anything as far as taking a QB there either.....I think Allen(if they aren't scared by the arthritis) or Adams is much more likely than a QB myself.....Or a trade down, if remotely possible. And really like the Cooper move. Wonder if they're looking at Butler as a S? Patterson visited today too.

That's a pretty serious injury... you want that at 36? That's basically going to be a red shirt for him, right? I'm not sure if it'd end his season or not. The one report says it'll take him into the season and drop him to Day 2. In the end, I want talent. I'd take the risk personally. If he lasts to the 3rd, even better.

Wtf @ their way of writing innings 68 0/100. Really horsefeathering weird. But exciting stuff nonetheless. Best case scenario for Cease is what? Start 2017 at Low-A, with a promotion to High-A? Then 2018 make it to Tennessee? 2019 big jump to MLB? Yeah, that's probably best case. They have to build his innings up too. So, they've got to be careful with him. I guess if he's really dominant, I could potentially see him being brought to the majors in Sept 2018, to use as a weapon out of the pen for that postseason.....

Jonathan Banks and Christian Jones were brought back. Sidney Jones just tore his Achilles at his Pro Day. I would LOVE to see him fall to 36.

I can't say I would have been happy (all things considered). Wonder how much extra value NO would consider that 5th year option on pick number 32... Good point. The pick a year later hurts the value, but I have no idea how THATs truly valued either. But, the 4th the Saints are sending back, could be kept by them too. Its probably extremely close value. Which would weight it towards the Pats, based on the extra year, the more I think about it. I'm just wanting a damn move or two tonight.

Damn, Cooks goes to the Pats for 32 and 103.....Pats even got a 4th back.... I would have been happy to give 36 and a 3rd next year for him.

Pryor seems horsefeathering thrilled by his deal lol

No sane receivers would take a prove it contract to play with this garbage offense. Agree on that. But, I can't imagine he'd have turned his nose up at 3/36 or so.