even Vitters' ceiling isn't very valuable we already know for sure he'll never walk, and can't play plus defense at 3B, and doesn't have huge power so, even imagining he can post .300/.365/.480 lines and play -5 defense, we're still just talking a 2.5-3 win player at best more likely, imo, he's a -10 fielder at 3B and hits something like .280/.320/.440, struggling to average 1 win a year; if he shifts to 1B, he's a bench player for us