yes that's true, but one also has to assume that luck will even out over time. some months theriot will have more singles drop in and be a very productive player; other months those batted balls will be caught more frequently and he'll have very little value. he's drawn 69 walks in 641 PAs this year, which is a rate comparable to lee and ramirez. i don't know why pitchers would walk him, but they have been this year, and i think the cat has been out of the bag for quite a while on him not being a power hitter. he's in the bottom 20 in baseball in frequency swinging at pitches; most guys in this group are guys you'd expect to see - cust, dunn, abreu, swisher. he's 7th in baseball in zone%, which i'm pretty sure means percent of pitches he sees within the strike zone. so pitchers throw him a lot of strikes, but he still manages to walk a lot. it's strange, but i don't think the spread is that large between the # of strikes that theriot sees and the # of strikes that a guy like adam dunn sees. pitchers probably don't vary their approach as much as they should. of course it's unfair. he's a little below average, but people make him out to be a complete butcher. he makes a very high percentage of plays on balls hit to him or in his area; his range is limited and his arm is fringy. this ends up making him a little below average. just because he made an error in an important spot that you remember does not make him any worse of a defensive player. overall, he'll give you above-average obp and below-average power at his position, plus a little below-average defense. he is essentially to shortstop what matt murton was to corner outfield. in the absence of a better in-house alternative, you're probably going to need a few players like this on the roster - adequate players making the major league minimum, so that you can afford to pay the big-production veterans. One significant difference between Murton & Theriot was the age at which they put up this "adequate" production in the majors. Murton was just about to enter his peak years, so it was reasonable to assume that given regular playing, his production would improve (he didn't really get that). Theriot is in his prime and so this is about as good as it gets. And with Theriot, you have Cedeno pushing him for a shot. We disagree on whether Cedeno deserves this shot, but I don't think it's fair to say there aren't any in-house options deserving of a shot at SS. I also think it's not entirely accurate to compare his numbers to other SS, given that he's not a good SS. You say "little below average" but I think range and arm strength are really important for SS (things Cedeno has). Theriot makes most of the plays hit right at him, but he flubs some of those too. I'd say he's more than a little below average, but it's somewhat subjective and it's splitting hairs. He's below average defensively and average at best offensively in his peak. I'd readily give up that combination to give a shot to a much younger kid that destroyed AAA twice, but again, we disagree on that.