Even if we suck, I don't know why we'd trade Lilly unless we got back an impact player for next year. The Cubs aren't likely to be rebuilding for 2011. They'd still be looking at Soto, ARam, Theriot, Bradley, Fukudome, Soriano, and Lee if he won't agree to a trade with Z, Lilly, Dempster and maybe Harden in the rotation. Doesn't make sense to pay as much as they're going to pay those guys in 2010 to try to build for 2011. And we don't have so much pitching that we can give away Lilly without bringing a ML ready arm back in the deal.