I honestly hear Danning Manning a lot and they point to the work he has done developing post players. I want to bring up that Manning is struggling at Wake and that Self turned Robert Archibald and Damir Krujpalia into pro post players before he ever worked with Danny, but I realize they're irrational and no one remembers those old Illinois players. lol. Basically Carlton Bragg killed your team this year. His lack of development made your team uneven big time towards the wings. lol, manning. I mean, I thought Danny did a nice job with our bigs, too, but c'mon. And yes, Bragg was a disaster. Losing Udoka was a big blow, too. I honestly forgot about Udoka. I think the fans here are insane, you guys win 30 games every damn year and they don't get everyone gets bounced in the tournament. Hell, Williams is as good as it gets and he couldn't win one at Kansas.