OleMissCub

I see. I'm definitely not a fan of the new forum divisions either. And what would make your highnesses happy? :write: Elisha Cuthbert.

I see. I'm definitely not a fan of the new forum divisions either.

"Boom, Jacque Jones!"

Well what other forum would you have it go into? Cubs discussions? Lesser teams? Rants? Transactions? Now that there is no "baseball discussions" forum, we are kinda stuck when it comes to threads like these.

Since there is no "general baseball" discussion thread now, I guess this goes here. What do y'all think are some of the top records in baseball. I'll just start out with a few that impress me a ton. - Ruth's .690 career slugging avg - Crawford's 309 career triples - Gehrig's 23 grand slams - Ryan's 7 no-no's - Johnny Vander Meer's back to back no hitter's - Walter Johnson's 110 career shutouts - Cobb's .366 career batting avg - Pedro's 291 ERA+ leaving out a few obvious ones apparently

that was foul fellas

No doubt baseball teams back then loved signing pitchers that couldn't throw balls across the plate effectively. As far as movement goes, pitchers back then were allowed to use tobacco on a ball, scuff it up, and basically do whatever they wanted to do to it. And they obviously used similar pitches that we do now. Look at those images I posted...a couple of those are slider grips. The 2007 Cubs pitchers gave up 573 walks and the 1908 Cubs pitchers gave up 437 walks.

Saints select Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St.

I have no idea. When I saw that TBS was doing the game tomorrow, I TRIPLE checked it before I posted that.

http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesrc/marquis.jpg 4.75 million 0-0, 5.1 IP, 6.75 ERA, 1.69 WHIP vs. http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesrc/moyertp.jpg 6.5 million 1-0, 9.2 IP, 4.66 ERA, 1.76 WHIP

I know! I heard that guys only threw the ball like 50 mph back then and the ball never had any break. It's astonishing that batters would actually have their bones broken by balls thrown that slow. Heck, there was even a guy who was killed by one of those little league fastballs. He must have been born with a thin skull or something. One would think that if good high schoolers today with no training can often throw the ball 80mph or higher, that a 6'2, 200lb grown man just 70 years ago could at least throw that hard. It's pretty weird. I mean, look at this picture of Walter Johnson. It's amazing he could only get it up to like 60mph, which scared the heck out of people back then! http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5208/trainoe8.jpg And with grips like these, how would they expect to ever get any break on the ball? http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29267&stc=1&d=1189969626

i bet baseball-reference doesnt have that split That literally made me "lol".

HE GOT THE WIN TONIGHT for the Drays! Tazings of a morning, winnings of an evening. Awesome.

Way to go Fonz!!!

While looking for these photos I came across this one of Honus Wagner from 1908 that I thought was neat. http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4491/250px52621062164538wl6.jpg

Fight! Fight! Fight!

Geaux Cubs!

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/olemisscub/walk-1.jpg

What's wrong with manufacturing a run. It's still a run, right?

Certainly looks that way.

two is not a winner and three nobody remembers

Just wanted to quote my two favorite passages from Crazy 08: Also, there is a great insight into what the 1908 Cubs were like on a personal level:

Yes you were definitely fair game to get abused if you went into the crowd. There are several stories about that type of stuff in Crazy 08. During one of the World Series games against the Tigers, Cobb dove after a ball into the crowd and crushed a spectator's bowler hat. He came out there the next inning and gave the guy ten dollars to get a new hat. There were also lots of examples of spectator's trying to bribe fielders to drop a ball or whatever. Sometimes there would be a fly ball hit and as the fielder camped under it, a fan might yell out that they'd give them five dollars to drop it. This actually worked sometimes.

Jack Pfiester (30), starting pitcher: 12-10, 117 ERA+ http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0029/s002942.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0077/s007718.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0523/s052340.jpg Orval Overall (27), starting pitcher: 15-11, 122 ERA+ http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0535/s053509.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0535/s053510.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0564/s056429.jpg Ed Reulbach (25), starting pitcher: 24-7, 116 ERA+ http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/08300/08343v.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0032/s003237.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0032/s003234.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0547/s054753.jpg Heine Zimmerman (21), utility inf/out: 46 games, .292/.298/.345, 102 OPS+, 9 RBI, 2 SB: http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/08300/08344v.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0600/s060004.jpg Del Howard (30), outfielder: 96 games, .279/.338/.330, 110 OPS+, 26 RBI, 11 SB: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0060/s006001.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0077/s007719.jpg Pat Moran (32), backup catcher: 50 games, .260/.323/.307, 98 OPS+, 12 RBI, 6 SB: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0555/s055587.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0547/s054755.jpg Carl Lundgren (28) relief pitcher: 23 appearances, 6-9, 56 ERA+ http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0022/s002298.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0029/s002939.jpg Shots from the pennant raising ceremony: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0068/s006862.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0553/s055328.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0553/s055333.jpg View from centerfield....that's so deep: http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/pan/6a34000/6a34400/6a34450r.jpg Batting practice. l to r, Tinker, Chance, Evers, Zimmer, Schulte, unident.: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0566/s056600.jpg l to r, Steinfeldt, Moran, Kling, Evers. http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0068/s006875.jpg Tinker taking BP: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0547/s054743.jpg Scrimmage game: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0545/s054546.jpg More practice photos: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0055/s005541.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0055/s005537.jpg Evers waiting his turn: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0069/s006928.jpg Three Finger with a bat: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0563/s056342.jpg Chance thinking about the righty lefty matchups for the upcoming game ( :wink: ) http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0055/s005544.jpg Chance throwing the ball: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0547/s054764.jpg Three Finger gettin' low: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0557/s055782.jpg Evers covering first: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0524/s052498.jpg Game action from 1908: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0068/s006869.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0058/s005873.jpg I guess this is the very definition of an overflow crowd. :shock: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0058/s005881.jpg The Peerless Leader leading off third: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0544/s054414.jpg Leftfielder Sheckard running the bases while checking out the hot dame in the third row: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0544/s054430.jpg Chance at the plate: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0514/s051445.jpg Steinfeldt scoring: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0529/s052939.jpg Chance rounding third. Looks to be ignoring starting pitcher Jack Pfiester who is coaching third: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0544/s054417.jpg Chance scoring a run: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0557/s055757.jpg A middle aged Cap Anson presenting Ed Reulbach with some bats. This really shows how long ago Cap Anson played if he was already an old man in 1908! http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0524/s052479.jpg The famed Tinker, Evers, & Chance in street clothes: http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0581/s058120.jpg

David "I shouldn't have won last year's gold glove" Wright.