They're this year's Cal, but with another loss and the Media likes them. That was a pretty poorly written article IMO. He dismisses the records of teams in lieu of watching them play. While there's something to be said for how a team plays, their record, strength of their schedule, etc. are REFELCTIONS of how the team played. This part in particular made me wonder: He compares this to people pointing out MSU-ND. Maybe the difference is that in the former case, it's the opponent of the opponent losing compared to just the opponent. And if he were to apply that Miami-FSU-Clemson logic to the other situation, then he could ask a similar question about ND-MSU-Northwestern/Purdue/Minnesota. It's just poor logic. I hardly think strength of schedule is a reflection of how a team plays. Their record yes, their strength of schedule they have no control over. All a team can do is play the opponent they are supposed to and do their best. Weak or strong the SOS is not a REFLECTION of how a team played. It is how they handle that schedule that reflects on the team. I think what you just explained is exactly what he meant. You kind of confused me, but Miami lost to a sub-par FSU team. It seems everybody forgot that, or agrees that Miami has gotten a lot better. I know I think they have. The ND-MSU-Northwestern, etc... point is the point he is making, I think. ND lost to MSU who lost to any one of those teams. Miami lost to FSU who lost to Clemson, NC State, and Virgina. Do you think ND is a better team since when they played MSU? Likewise do you think MSU is a worse team than when they played? Did any of that make sense? It did when I was writing it, but now I'm not too sure. NDistops, maybe you can better say what I am trying to.