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Am I missing something? Pick 60 was Carlos Guillen. My list shows Gallardo was available. David edited his post. He originally selected Carlos Guillen.

Just traded BJ Upton, Jason Bay, and Billy Wagner to another team for Alfonso Soriano, Rickie Weeks, and Joe Nathan.

1. Alex Rodriguez 2. Albert Pujols 3. Hanley Ramirez 4. Jose Reyes 5. Ryan Braun 6. David Wright 7. Chase Utley 8. Jimmy Rollins 9. Miguel Cabrera 10. Johan Santana 11. Matt Holliday 12. Ryan Howard 13. Grady Sizemore 14. Prince Fielder 15. Jake Peavy 16. Troy Tulowitzki 17. Victor Martinez 18. Carl Crawford 19. Alfonso Soriano 20. David Ortiz 21. Carlos Beltran 22. Brandon Webb 23. Vlad Guerrero 24. Ichiro 25. Derrek Lee 26. Russell Martin 27. Joe Mauer 28. Brandon Phillips 29. Brian Roberts 30. BJ Upton 31. Derek Jeter 32. Corey Hart 33. Josh Beckett 34. Manny Ramirez 35. Dan Haren 36. Robinson Cano 37. Justin Verlander 38. Erik Bedard 39. Aramis Ramirez 40. Cole Hamels 41. Larry Wayne "Chipper" Jones 42. Adam Dunn 43. Mark Teixeira 44. CC Sabathia 45. Carlos Lee 46. Lance Berkman 47. Roy Halladay 48. Carlos Zambrano 49. Scott Kazmir 50. Francisco Liriano 51. John Smoltz 52. John Lackey 53. Chris Young (the outfielder) 54. Curtis Granderson 55. Brian McCann 56. Ian Kinsler 57. Magglio Ordonez 58. Jorge Posada 59. Khalil Greene 60. Carlos Guillen 61. Garrett Atkins 62. Felix Hernandez 63. Aaron Rowand 64. Geovany Soto 65. Chris Young (the weirdly proportioned pitcher) 66. Roy Oswalt 67. Aaron Harang 68. Ryan Zimmerman 69. Carlos Pena 70. Joe Nathan 71. Matt Kemp 72. Francisco Rodriguez 73. Dan Uggla 74. Gary Sheffield 75. Jonathan Paplebon 76. Daisuke Matsuzaka 77. Hunter Pence 78. Tim Lincecum 79. Rich Hill 80. Nick Markakis 81. Rickie Weeks 82. Kosuke Fukudome 83. Kenji Johjima 84. Fausto Carmona 85. JJ Putz 86. Takashi Saito 87. Jose Valverde 88. Todd Helton 89. Javier Vazquez 90. Nick Swisher 91. James Shields 92. Miguel Tejada 93. Brad Hawpe 94. Hideki Matsui 95. Travis Hafner 96. Edgar Renteria 97. Alex Rios 98. JJ Hardy 99. Chone Figgins 100. Billy Wagner 101. Joba Chamberlain 102. A.J. Burnett- picking for IMB 103. Bobby Abreu 104. Shane Victorino 105. Mariano Rivera 106. Placido Polanco 107. Kevin Kouzmanoff 108. Jason Bay 109. Josh Hamilton 110. Brad Penny 111. Michael Young 112. Torii Hunter 113. Adrian Gonzalez 114. Matt Cain 115. Eric Byrnes (IMB) 116. Huston Street 117. Adrian Beltre 118. Howie Kendrick 119. Brett Myers 120. Andruw Jones 121. Justin Morneau 122. Bobby Jenks 123. Ben Sheets 124. John Maine 125. Matt Capps 126. Delmon Young 127. Pedro Martinez

While we wait for Mizzou to stop trying to steal Bobby Abreu from me and to just take another player, I thought I'd go ahead and sort this out for everybody. Mizzou 1. Alex Rodriguez 24. Ichiro 25. Derrek Lee 48. Carlos Zambrano 49. Scott Kazmir 72. Francisco Rodriguez 73. Dan Uggla 96. Edgar Renteria 97. Alex Rios 120. Justin Morneau Wolf 2. Albert Pujols 23. Vlad Guerrero 26. Russell Martin 47. Roy Halladay 50. Francisco Liriano 71. Matt Kemp 74. Gary Sheffield 95. Travis Hafner 98. JJ Hardy 119. Brett Myers Vance 3. Hanley Ramirez 22. Brandon Webb 27. Joe Mauer 46. Lance Berkman 51. John Smoltz 70. Joe Nathan 75. Jonathan Paplebon 94. Hideki Matsui 99. Chone Figgins 118.Howie Kendrick Rocket 4. Jose Reyes 21. Carlos Beltran 28. Brandon Phillips 45. Carlos Lee 52. John Lackey 69. Carlos Pena 76. Daisuke Matsuzaka 93. Brad Hawpe 100. Billy Wagner 117. Adrian Beltre Cheapseats 5. Ryan Braun 20. David Ortiz 29. Brian Roberts 44. CC Sabathia 53. Chris Young (the outfielder) 68. Ryan Zimmerman 77. Hunter Pence 92. Miguel Tejada 101. Joba Chamberlain 116. Huston Street IMB 6. David Wright 19. Alfonso Soriano 30. BJ Upton 43. Mark Teixeira 54. Curtis Granderson 67. Aaron Harang 78. Tim Lincecum 91. James Shields 102. A.J. Burnett 115. Eric Byrnes Rob 7. Chase Utley 18. Carl Crawford 31. Derek Jeter 42. Adam Dunn 55. Brian McCann 66. Roy Oswalt 79. Rich Hill 90. Nick Swisher 103. Bobby Abreu 114. Matt Cain earth2sean 8. Jimmy Rollins 17. Victor Martinez 32. Corey Hart 41. Larry Wayne "Chipper" Jones 56. Ian Kinsler 65. Chris Young (the weirdly proportioned pitcher) 80. Nick Markakis 89. Javier Vazquez 104. Shane Victorino 113. Adrian Gonzalez David 9. Miguel Cabrera 16. Troy Tulowitzki 33. Josh Beckett 40. Cole Hamels 57. Magglio Ordonez 64. Geovany Soto 81. Rickie Weeks 88. Todd Helton 105. Mariano Rivera 112. Torii Hunter Derwood 10. Johan Santana 15. Jake Peavy 34. Manny Ramirez 39. Aramis Ramirez 58. Jorge Posada 63. Aaron Rowand 82. Kosuke Fukudome 87. Jose Valverde 106. Placido Polanco 111. Michael Young Andy 11. Matt Holliday 14. Prince Fielder 35. Dan Haren 38. Erik Bedard 59. Khalil Greene 62. Felix Hernandez 83. Kenji Johjima 86. Takashi Saito 107. Kevin Kouzmanoff 110. Brad Penny RynoRules 12. Ryan Howard 13. Grady Sizemore 36. Robinson Cano 37. Justin Verlander 60. Carlos Guillen 61. Garrett Atkins 84. Fausto Carmona 85. JJ Putz 108. Jason Bay 109. Josh Hamilton

They got the boot for this tiny argument? hoops just left on his own And Meph? done. i don't want to elaborate in case the mods get pissed about it Fair enough. Well this is all a shame, I'm gonna miss the two of them... and this, what had to be the most unlikely fight ever. Back to the topic at hand, barring injury, I see no reason to add Crisp to this team.

They got the boot for this tiny argument? hoops just left on his own And Meph?

They got the boot for this tiny argument?

2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008.

Dude don't you know anything about baseball. CFs hit leadoff unless there is a skinny, fast, black dude at another position (very rare). Gotta have a guy that can handle the bat (i.e. sac bunt, hit and run, makes productive outs) batting 2nd. Gotta give that fast dude a chance to run. Corner OF and IF are the 3-6 spots, and mostly interchangeable. C is 7th. SS is 8th. These are both defense-first positions, so the offense you get from them is a bonus. Defense wins championships and you gotta be strong up the middle. Second baseman bats second, dude. Nah. Not necessarily. Shortstops are also allowed to bat 2nd. CF 2B/SS (whomever "handles the bat" better... probably the worse hitter of the two) 1B/3B/LF/RF 1B/3B/LF/RF 1B/3B/LF/RF 1B/3B/LF/RF C 2B/SS P Brandon Phillips and the fact that three of that 1B/3B/LF/RF mix are lefties is really gonna throw him off though.

1. Alex Rodriguez 2. Albert Pujols 3. Hanley Ramirez 4. Jose Reyes 5. Ryan Braun 6. David Wright 7. Chase Utley 8. Jimmy Rollins 9. Miguel Cabrera 10. Johan Santana 11. Matt Holliday 12. Ryan Howard 13. Grady Sizemore 14. Prince Fielder 15. Jake Peavy 16. Troy Tulowitzki 17. Victor Martinez 18. Carl Crawford 19. Alfonso Soriano 20. David Ortiz 21. Carlos Beltran 22. Brandon Webb 23. Vlad Guerrero 24. Ichiro 25. Derrek Lee 26. Russell Martin 27. Joe Mauer 28. Brandon Phillips 29. Brian Roberts 30. BJ Upton 31. Derek Jeter 32. Corey Hart 33. Josh Beckett 34. Manny Ramirez 35. Dan Haren 36. Robinson Cano 37. Justin Verlander 38. Erik Bedard 39. Aramis Ramirez 40. Cole Hamels 41. Larry Wayne "Chipper" Jones 42. Adam Dunn 43. Mark Teixeira 44. CC Sabathia 45. Carlos Lee 46. Lance Berkman 47. Roy Halladay 48. Carlos Zambrano 49. Scott Kazmir 50. Francisco Liriano 51. John Smoltz 52. John Lackey 53. Chris Young (the outfielder) 54. Curtis Granderson 55. Brian McCann 56. Ian Kinsler 57. Magglio Ordonez 58. Jorge Posada 59. Khalil Greene 60. Carlos Guillen 61. Garrett Atkins 62. Felix Hernandez 63. Aaron Rowand 64. Geovany Soto 65. Chris Young (the weirdly proportioned pitcher) 66. Roy Oswalt 67. Aaron Harang 68. Ryan Zimmerman 69. Carlos Pena 70. Joe Nathan 71. Matt Kemp 72. Francisco Rodriguez 73. Dan Uggla 74. Gary Sheffield 75. Jonathan Paplebon 76. Daisuke Matsuzaka 77. Hunter Pence 78. Tim Lincecum 79. Rich Hill 80. Nick Markakis 81. Rickie Weeks 82. Kosuke Fukudome 83. Kenji Johjima 84.Fausto Carmona 85. JJ Putz 86. Takashi Saito 87. Jose Valverde 88. Todd Helton 89. Javier Vazquez 90. Nick Swisher 91. James Shields 92. Miguel Tejada 93. Brad Hawpe 94. Hideki Matsui 95. Travis Hafner 96. Edgar Renteria 97. Alex Rios 98. JJ Hardy 99. Chone Figgins 100. Billy Wagner 101. Joba Chamberlain 102. A.J. Burnett- picking for IMB 103. Bobby Abreu 104. Shane Victorino 105. Mariano Rivera 106. Placido Polanco 107. Kevin Kouzmanoff 108. Jason Bay 109. Josh Hamilton 110. Brad Penny 111. Michael Young 112. Torii Hunter 113. Adrian Gonzalez 114. Matt Cain Whoever is keeping tabs on IMBs picks should probably let him know he's up.

Twelve. Standard 5x5 league, H2H. Four keepers though. I had kept Braun, Santana, Peavy, and Papelbon. But still...

C - Victor Martinez 1B - Todd Helton 2B - BJ Upton 3B - Evan Longoria SS - Stephen Drew LF - Jason Bay CF - Chris Young RF - Corey Hart UTIL - Ryan Braun SP - Johan Santana SP - Jake Peavy SP - John Smoltz SP - Cole Hamels P - Billy Wagner RP - Jonathan Papelbon Bench - Jay Bruce Bench - Matt Cain Bench - Pedro Martinez Bench - Rich Harden We have a seven start a week limit on our pitching staffs, so my staff isn't as overpowering as it could be. Still, I wont have to worry about spot-starting crappy pitchers this season. And if Bay sucks to start off the season, I package him with Drew for a SS upgrade, move Braun to LF after he gets 10 games there (and gains eligibility), and pick up somebody off the waiver wire.

Hey, it turns out I'm not gonna be able to do this, on account of the fact that I've joined a few other leagues in the 3+ weeks between when I offered to join, and when I was told there was an opening. So there should be another spot open.

1. Alex Rodriguez 2. Albert Pujols 3. Hanley Ramirez 4. Jose Reyes 5. Ryan Braun 6. David Wright 7. Chase Utley 8. Jimmy Rollins 9. Miguel Cabrera 10. Johan Santana 11. Matt Holliday 12. Ryan Howard 13. Grady Sizemore 14. Prince Fielder 15. Jake Peavy 16. Troy Tulowitzki 17. Victor Martinez 18. Carl Crawford 19. Alfonso Soriano 20. David Ortiz 21. Carlos Beltran 22. Brandon Webb 23. Vlad Guerrero 24. Ichiro 25. Derrek Lee 26. Russell Martin 27. Joe Mauer 28. Brandon Phillips 29. Brian Roberts 30. BJ Upton 31. Derek Jeter 32. Corey Hart 33. Josh Beckett 34. Manny Ramirez 35. Dan Haren 36. Robinson Cano 37. Justin Verlander 38. Erik Bedard 39. Aramis Ramirez 40. Cole Hamels 41. Larry Wayne "Chipper" Jones 42. Adam Dunn 43. Mark Teixeira 44. CC Sabathia 45. Carlos Lee 46. Lance Berkman 47. Roy Halladay 48. Carlos Zambrano 49. Scott Kazmir 50. Francisco Liriano 51. John Smoltz 52. John Lackey 53. Chris Young (the outfielder) 54. Curtis Granderson 55. Brian McCann 56. Ian Kinsler 57. Magglio Ordonez 58. Jorge Posada 59. Khalil Greene 60. Carlos Guillen 61. Garrett Atkins 62. Felix Hernandez 63. Aaron Rowand 64. Geovany Soto 65. Chris Young (the weirdly proportioned pitcher) 66. Roy Oswalt 67. Aaron Harang 68. Ryan Zimmerman 69. Carlos Pena 70. Joe Nathan 71. Matt Kemp 72. Francisco Rodriguez 73. Dan Uggla 74. Gary Sheffield 75. Jonathan Paplebon 76. Daisuke Matsuzaka 77. Hunter Pence 78. Tim Lincecum 79. Rich Hill 80. Nick Markakis 81. Rickie Weeks 82. Kosuke Fukudome 83. Kenji Johjima 84.Fausto Carmona 85. JJ Putz 86. Takashi Saito 87. Jose Valverde 88. Todd Helton 89. Javier Vazquez 90. Nick Swisher 91. James Shields 92. Miguel Tejada 93. Brad Hawpe 94. Hideki Matsui 95. Travis Hafner 96. Edgar Renteria 97. Alex Rios 98. JJ Hardy 99. Chone Figgins 100. Billy Wagner 101. Joba Chamberlain 102. A.J. Burnett- picking for IMB 103. Bobby Abreu

How many teams are in this league? If it's a 12 team league, I'm not a fan at all.

And so now his value plummets. Whereas before we might've eaten a little salary and gotten a pretty nice prospect for our 190 inning guy, now we eat a bunch of salary and hope another team will pick up half his contract, no matter what they're willing to give up in prospects.

Most OH posters aren't that bad. Us looking at those posts is like them looking the crap DeuceBaseman or wrigley23 would say. Each community is entitled to its share of junk.

Did Pleasac just imply that Theriot finished last season strong? The man had a .520 OPS in Sept.

My condolences, Bruce. I hadn't heard about your father.

Quick recap of what Lou said. Likes Fukudome's patience, should help him adjust. Year 2 is easier, as they have a better handle on who they have. Has a pretty good idea who's getting cut down in a week or so. Looking to determine CFer "mid-March" Mentioned Wood, Marmol, and Howry as closer candidates. Probably determine that by the 3rd week of this month. Thinks Eyre looks better this season than he did at this point last season. Really likes the ballclub, but doesn't think we are very deep. Ward's hip is injured. DeRosa should be playing by next weekend. Thinks Dempster is throwing the ball "very very well". Would like to get another lefty for the bullpen, preferably from the guys in camp. Really likes the way Hart throws.

And then of course, Murton comes through with a really fantastic, 10 pitch AB.

What if it was in relief? :D Touche, salesman. I too have an uncle.

I wouldn't worry about it until opening day. Few guys are going to be putting 100% effort into these games. I'd be very worried if Marquis was on the mound opening day, period.

Ha... they only had Vlad half in the frame. It's spring training for the camera crews too, apparently.

Soto with a perfect throw... Figgins out at 2b.