Thre's two anti-Pierre stances, and they're not mutually exclusive: 1) Pierre is in general overvalued by everyone, since his skills don't translate into generating runs on the offensive end as much as everyone thinks and similarly preventing runs on the defensive end - the Marlins will ask too much for him 2) It's a light FA market this year, so the Marlins will ask for too much for Pierre Both are true, IMHO. The stats don't back up that Pierre is a great leadoff hitter (regardless of the comparison to Hairston) - his career OBP of .356 is decent, but is reduced by how often he gets caught stealing. His career SB rate is too low to be considered beneficial to his team. His defense is good, but not great due to his bad routes as CubinNY pointed out. If you're pro-Pierre based on intangibles, I'll respectfully disagree with you. Knowing you'll have to face Derrek and Aramis is reason enough to cause unease in any pitcher, regardless if Juan Pierre is on first base. IMO, if Pierre wasn't on the 2003 Marlins, noone would be having this 'intangibles' discussion about him. Intangibles are a way sportscasters explain why a team is winning by pointing to the most marketable of the players so the masses will 'understand' baseball. You can't compare Pierre to what we have in CF and say because Pierre might be an improvement, we should get him. Compare him to what we would have to give up to get him. I can't see a scenario where the Marlins will only ask for a top-level prospect (my personal limit for what we should have to give up to get Pierre). On a side note, if you think that Podsednik is the MVP of the White Sox because of the 'commotion' he causes on the basepaths, I'd encourage you to apologize to Mark Buehrle.