Agreed. Matsuzaka and Lilly are my top choices in each category. What in this thread has proved to you that Lilly is the top choice of the second tier starters, the high amount of fly balls and homeruns allowed, or the high walk rate? Personally, this thread helped cement my opinion that neither one of them is likely to live up to their contract, and both should probably be avoided like the plague. What tier II FA pitcher, or for that matter, tier I FA pitcher, or for that matter tier I or II FA position player is? Unfortunately we are in a time (worse than any other) where you have to severly overpay for mediocrity, which means that an increased emphasis on developing your own talent is absolutely necessary. Remember 3 years ago or so when all those #3 pitchers got 3/21 contracts? Now #4 pitchers like Suppan, Padilla, Lilly, Meche are projected to possibly get 4 years of 8-9M. The entire Florida Marlins team is going to cost less than most team's back end of the rotation.