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  1. If Selig was willing to let the 03 All-Star Game end in a tie, I don't see why he wouldn't want to do something that was truly good for the game. It really seems like everyone universally wants this reviewed and fixed...the player, the ump, the fans, the media... There's no downside, and I don't think it would set a precedent for anything other than the final out of a perfect game. and a no hitter. and a record breaking HR. and a 21 K game. and... I'm not saying he shouldn't do it, but it's something that would be referenced for anything that someone wants reviewed by the commish in the future. So Galarraga should be screwed out of a perfect game that he rightfully earned because other people may use replay so they won't get screwed out of other things that they rightfully earned as well? Really?
  2. Yeah, the whole "The human element is part of the game" nonsense that some people have is truly baffling. It's just a shame that something like this has to happen before any action is taken, instead of fixing it in the first place.
  3. I don't agree that it was the "worst call in the history of the sport." Like I said, had this come in a 3-3 ballgame with 1 out in the 5th inning, would you still call it that? It was a terrible call, sure, but we've all seen worse calls, just not in such a high-pressure situation before.
  4. A cross between Mantle and Mays-- Mays for his overall ability on the baseball field, and Mantle because he didn't accomplish everything he truly could have in his career because of injury after injury.
  5. I give credit to Galarraga for handling this with far more class than I ever would have. Also I give credit to Joyce for owning up to his mistake and owning that he fucked up the call. I can't recall the last time I heard an umpire say "I blew it." Usually their ego prevents it. I hope we hear something from the Commissioner's office today regarding the situation, but I thought something would have been out by now. I have a funny feeling we hear nothing from Mr. Selig on this.
  6. No, he shouldn't have. Because it wasn't.
  7. He has already stated that he felt terrible and that he blew the biggest call of his career. I think people need to cut the guy some slack. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=300602106 I'm not giving him flack. He admitted he screwed up, and that's a big step in the right direction. I kinda feel bad for him for blowing the biggest call of his career. Nobody would be talking about him if he had made the right call. I'm just saying he should take it a step further and make it known that he wishes his call be overturned and that the perfect game is recognized officially by MLB.
  8. I would have all the respect in the world for Jim Joyce if he personally contacted the Commissioner and ask that his call be officially overturned. It's not a guarantee that Selig actually would, but I'd respect him for asking for the right thing to be done, rather than dig in his heels and refuse to admit he was wrong.
  9. You are correct, sir. Too bad this thread hasn't gotten more attention, what with the blown call in the perfect game and all.
  10. I would. It would mean he actually grew a spine.
  11. exactly. Look, if a team is being "perfect gamed" with 2 outs in the 9th, then they are defeated and deserve to lose. Any questionable call needs to go to the pitcher's team. I know that umps are supposed to be completely unbiased, but they know what is going on in the game 99% of the time. No matter the game situation, getting the call right should always take priority. This line of thinking has always baffled me. I'll watch games where a young pitcher is nibbling at the corners and not getting strike calls, and the announcers will say something like "He hasn't earned that strike yet." A strike is a strike no matter the situation. An out is an out no matter the situation. The call was blown and the umpire was clearly wrong and there's no debating it. But this whole "well, he was doing good so he deserves the benefit of the doubt" stuff is just wrong. The correct call should always be made without exception. Period.
  12. You shouldn't feel bad for Joyce. He deserves everything he gets. Something like this is unforgivable. I really think in a situation like this Selig (or somebody in his office, such as Bob Watson) should have the authority to overrule the umpire's incompetent call and award Galarraga with the perfect game he in reality did pitch. It's not a judgment call, like the ball 4 call in Milt Pappas' almost-perfect game. In this case the batter was clearly, objectively out; no judgment involved whatsoever. The umpire was factually wrong. I wouldn't call it "unforgivable". Sure, people would say it was a crappy call if it came, say, in the 5th inning of a tie game, but it wouldn't be "unforgivable." However, I agree with the rest of your post.
  13. It is 3 perfectos in one month, no matter what Jim Joyce says.
  14. Seriously? How can you be against a system that can ensure the correct call being made? Don't give me this "it will lengthen the game" bullcrap either. I'm sure they could work out a system to where it could be used only X number of times per game. Just because things have always been one way doesn't mean things always have to remain that way.
  15. Steve Bartman's gonna be pissed about this.... ok, I'm lost...
  16. But yet he will. I bet all we get is a brief, 4-sentence statement that doesn't say much of anything, and then nothing else from the Commissioner's Office.
  17. The moment will be gone, but the pitcher will be remembered by history for all time. That's at least better than the legions of guys who no one remembers who were perfect through 8 or 8 2/3rds and blew it. I dont see why they wouldnt reverse the call. I mean anyone who sees that replay can tell it wasnt even close and he was well out. Even if it was a close play and he was barely safe, which he clearly wasnt, youd think the ump would want to call him out to be a part of history. The Indians wouldnt have put up a fuss, the fans go home happy, and history is made with the first season with 3 perfectos. Am I saying they shouldn't reverse the call? Absolutely not. If I were Selig I'd have already drafted a statement saying that the call is reversed and this is recognized as a Perfect Game. However, if they didn't reverse the call when the 1985 World Series was on the line, I doubt they'd do it for a regular season game in June, perfect game or not. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, though. Dude deserves it.
  18. The moment will be gone, but the pitcher will be remembered by history for all time. That's at least better than the legions of guys who no one remembers who were perfect through 8 or 8 2/3rds and blew it.
  19. I think MLB has to reverse the umps decision. The runner is clearly out. Leyland and whoever needs to fly to major league baseball and demand they reverse the call and give Armondo the much earned perfect game. They won't. They should. But they're scared of setting a precedent. I know. God forbid they actually do the right thing. We can't have that in the National Pastime!!
  20. I've never seen that debated call in the Pappas game, but from what I hear it was a borderline pitch that could have gone either way. This one was a clear blown call, plain and simple.
  21. I think MLB has to reverse the umps decision. The runner is clearly out. Leyland and whoever needs to fly to major league baseball and demand they reverse the call and give Armondo the much earned perfect game. MLB has never done that to my knowledge, even when the results of a World Series were on the line. They won't do it here. Especially Selig.
  22. Jim Joyce now has a place in infamy. I'd be pissed if I were the pitcher. I'm actually slightly angry now. I don't care about the pitcher, the Tigers, or the Indians, but I care about the history that was taken from us tonight.
  23. I wonder if Fred would have any idea.
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