It's been a weird relationship with Tony and a lot of Cardinal fans. He's not Herzog, so he'll never be a good manager in a lot of people's eyes. It's similar to Ditka here in Chicago. I know he can come off as elitist, cocky and class A jerk. But, I look at his animal rescue foundation and other charity work, and the couple times I've been able to meet him in person, and I really believe he's a good person. It's kind of obvious that he's one of the best managers in the history of the game. St. Louis won't really appreciate the job he's done till he's gone. I'm guessing that he and Duncan will be there for two, maybe three more years. For what it's worth I like Lou as well. Couldn't stand Dusty, and still don't like him.