i'm really only doing merit-based rankings - none of this "who do you associate with that team" business. 1. honus wagner 2. paul waner 3. clemente by a hair 4. arky vaughan 5. stargell The viewers went: 1. Clemente 2. Wagner 3. Stargell Big Poison only got 0.3%!! yeah, waner and vaughan get overlooked a lot because the pirates generally were average as a team during their careers, they played in a small media market and they were overshadowed by some of the greats during that time (ruth, gehrig, foxx, hornsby, ott, ted williams). also, forbes field severely sapped their home run numbers - while they weren't as strong as ruth and gehrig, and possessed more doubles/triples power than home runs, i suspect that they'd have increased their home run totals by a factor of 2 if they'd played in a more homer-friendly park.