Yea, that really means nothing in terms of the 2008 Cubs. Hell, the 2005 White Sox have nothing to do with the 2008 Cubs either, for that matter, but people need to find comfort in different ways. That's cool. plus a lot of teams have a history of collapsing down the stretch. the dodgers had great chances in 1942 and 1951 but didn't make the playoffs. the 1964 phillies lost 10 games in a row to end the 1964 season and lost the pennant by a game. the 1993 giants blew it. the 1995 angels had a 1 in 8000 chance of missing the playoffs. the red sox were above 92% chance to make the playoffs at various points in the 2000, 2001 and 2002 seasons, and didn't make it in any of those years. not to mention the 1978 red sox. 2005 indians? 2007 mets? 2004 yankees in the playoffs? for every year like 1969 and 2004 in the cubs' history, there have been 10 years like 2002 and 2006, when the cubs were completely uncompetitive. nobody associates the giants or dodgers or yankees or red sox (well, not any more) with choking because they've done plenty of good things in their history. for the cubs, the problem has not been choking down the stretch, it's been putting a team on the field that's good enough to be in contention down the stretch.