I dont know, theyre starting to remind me of the 2008 Tigers, remember, they had Cabrera, Ordonez, Sheffield, Granderson, Guillen, Pudge, Polanco, and Jacque Jones up and down the lineup, and everyone thought they couldnt possibly be as bad as they were, and it turned out that they were. that's because a few of those guys (magglio, renteria and polanco especially) were coming off anomalously good years and people thought they could keep hitting like that, plus they assumed that a lot of those guys in their 30s would rake like they did in their prime. they were actually #4 in runs scored and #3 in OPS among AL teams, even with most of their players coming back to earth and some having downright poor years. their problem wasn't offense, it was pitching... they had one of the worst staffs in the AL, which is why they lost a lot.