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    The Cubs and Pete Crow-Armstrong Might Be Facing a (Good) Dilemma


    Brandon Glick

    The Cubs are closing in on a playoff spot. The Cubs have one of the top prospects in all of baseball, and he’s at Triple A. A decision looms.

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    Pete Crow-Armstrong is the top prospect in the Chicago Cubs’ farm system, and a consensus top-10 prospect in all of baseball. He’s the most highly-regarded prospect the Cubs have had since the days of Kris Bryant and Javier Baez (for whom he was acquired), and seems destined to be the man who patrols center field at Wrigley for the next decade-plus. 

    If you’ve been keeping up with scouting reports at all since the Cubs acquired him during the 2021 Trade Deadline Fire Sale, you know PCA’s calling cards: defense and speed. According to MLB.com’s scouting report (which merely corroborates the universal notion on PCA), Crow-Armstrong has true, top-of-the-scale 80-grade defense, and he receives similarly high marks for his speed and aggressiveness on the base paths. 

    The 2023 Cubs are looking to make some noise in these final two months, indicated by their surprising deadline approach of buying the top rental bat on the market in Jeimer Candelario (and controllable reliever José Cuas). They’re clearly serious about each and every roster spot—a fact highlighted by their willingness to designate Trey Mancini for assignment and swallow the remaining $10 million or so on his contract. So, assuming the Cubs remain competitive throughout August, would they actually consider using one of the two extra roster spots on their top prospect?

    The last Cubs teams that were competitive certainly would have made a case for it. Before that core fell apart and was shipped off for the prospects that will define the next era of Cubs baseball, the team had an affinity for using that last roster spot on elite speed and/or defensive threats who could be used as valuable late-game substitutions. (Remember Leonys Martin in 2017, or Terrance Gore in 2018?) Crow-Armstrong fits both mini-role descriptions, and it’s almost certain his bat would already be more playable than any of the other pinch-runners and defensive subs they’ve thrown out there in the past. 

    However, there’s also water to throw on this fire. Crow-Armstrong doesn’t need to be added to the 40-man roster this offseason for Rule 5 protection, meaning that the Cubs can wait to do so until after the offseason to maintain maximum flexibility for their signings, trades and other prospect maneuvers over the winter. Moreover, he was only added to the Triple-A Iowa Cubs roster this week. It may be best for his development (and in the same vein, the future of the Cubs) to use this last month of the minor-league season to figure out what he needs to work on over the offseason to show up to 2024 Spring Training ready to compete for the center field job, rather than worrying about providing marginal value to a big-league team in the heat of a playoff push. All of that fails to mention that if the Cubs don’t add Crow-Armstrong with one of the two extra roster spots that now constitute September call-ups, they can add another prospect banging on the door of the Major Leagues. (Luis Vasquez, Yonathan Perlaza, or Matt Mervis, anyone?)

    It’s probably also worth noting that this Cubs team is pretty well-equipped in center field already. Cody Bellinger is having a monstrous comeback season, and is on the heels of winning National League Player of the Month in July. He’s an elite bat and defender out in center, and if Candelario is really going to take over first base full-time down the stretch, the need for Crow-Armstrong is probably mitigated.

    Alas, there are different schools of thought to be applied here. There may be no player in the entire Cubs organization right now better-equipped to help this team at the margins, which becomes amplified as every game starts to mean that much more in the playoff race. But, Crow-Armstrong is still just 21 years old, and only two years removed from a major shoulder surgery that cost him virtually the entire 2021 season. 

    Where the Cubs’ season goes from here may ultimately answer the question on its own. If they remain competitive in the heat of the Wild Card and division race, perhaps Crow-Armstrong earns his cup of coffee in the big leagues. If the club falls out of it (or, alternatively and however improbably, if they run away with and lock up a playoff spot early), he’ll probably remain in the minors until next season. Regardless, it speaks volumes to the success of this campaign—both for Crow-Armstrong and for the Cubs, as a team—that this is a discussion we’ll be having for the foreseeable future. 

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    Tryptamine

    Posted

    Ok, you heard it here gentleman. If you're 25+ and you're not putting up a 200 wRC+ on 80% flyballs you're horsefeathers and not worthy of getting a chance at the big leagues. 

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    sneakypower

    Posted

    when a prospect celebrates their 25th birthday

    Leonardo DiCaprio

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    Backtobanks

    Posted

    2 hours ago, TomtheBombadil said:

    Mervis AAA 2023: .950 OPS

    IL 2023: .801 OPS

    Mervis AAA 2022: .977 OPS

    IL 2022: .750 OPS

    I think we can all agree that he ought to be given a good shot at making the team in spring training.  If he shows that he belongs, then use him as 1B/DH.  Of course, his ml stats might also make him attractive trade bait.

    Brandon Glick

    Posted

    2 hours ago, sneakypower said:

    when a prospect celebrates their 25th birthday

    Leonardo DiCaprio

    No matter what side you take, this entire discussion was worth it just to get here

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    CubinNY

    Posted

    I don't know if FullCountTommy from Twitter reads NSBB, but he's been barking about PCA getting some time with the big club at the end of the year. Would be interesting. 

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    Brandon Glick

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

    I don't know if FullCountTommy from Twitter reads NSBB, but he's been barking about PCA getting some time with the big club at the end of the year. Would be interesting. 

    Saw that too. It'll be an ongoing discussion for fans and the front office alike as long as the Cubs remain competitive. There are two spots on the 40-man right now, but keeping those into the offseason could prove extremely valuable. 

    Hairyducked Idiot

    Posted

    Someone forgot to tell MLB.com that PCA is a consensus top 5 prospect. He dropped to 12 in today's list.

    We Got The Whole 9

    Posted

    9 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

    Someone forgot to tell MLB.com that PCA is a consensus top 5 prospect. He dropped to 12 in today's list.

    Who rose above him and why

    UMFan83

    Posted (edited)

    10 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

    Someone forgot to tell MLB.com that PCA is a consensus top 5 prospect. He dropped to 12 in today's list.

    Yes but Cade Horton is the 4th best pitching prospect in baseball according to that list.  I can't remember if that was you or Tom that was pushing back on that or what the parameters were.

     

    Edit: nvm it looks like the argument was that he was a top 5 prospect in baseball I think, which in that case no, he's 30

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    CubinNY

    Posted (edited)

    It doesn't matter because the exact numbers don't matter. 

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    Hairyducked Idiot

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

    Yes but Cade Horton is the 4th best pitching prospect in baseball according to that list.  I can't remember if that was you or Tom that was pushing back on that or what the parameters were.

     

    Edit: nvm it looks like the argument was that he was a top 5 prospect in baseball I think, which in that case no, he's 30

    I didn't even say that he wasn't a top 5 sp prospect or that it was crazy to think so. I just said that it was an aggressive placement.

    Brandon Glick

    Posted (edited)

    12 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

    Someone forgot to tell MLB.com that PCA is a consensus top 5 prospect. He dropped to 12 in today's list.

    If a guy being two spots out of the top 10 (with 2 of the guys ahead of him draft picks from this year) on one list means PCA is a worse prospect than before, then the Cubs need to pack it up

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    Hairyducked Idiot

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Brandon Glick said:

    If a guy being two spots out of the top 10 (with 2 of the guys ahead of him draft picks from this year) on one list means PCA is a worse prospect than before, then the Cubs need to pack it up

    No they don't. That doesn't make sense.

    UMFan83

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    Brandon Glick

    Posted

    5 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

     

    Its Happening GIF by MOODMAN

     

    Saw this too - his bat is so much more advanced than anticipated. Wouldn't be surprising to see him get a couple of starts down the stretch. Very exciting!

    Derek_Lee_Truther

    Posted

    PCA has to come up at this point. Hottest hitter since he got put on Iowa. 

    Bench madrigal. Candy at 3 belli at 1 and pca in center. Guarenteed playoffs

    Brock Beauchamp

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Derek_Lee_Truther said:

    PCA has to come up at this point. Hottest hitter since he got put on Iowa. 

    Bench madrigal. Candy at 3 belli at 1 and pca in center. Guarenteed playoffs

    Welcome to NSBB!

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    chopsx9

    Posted

    45 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    Welcome to NSBB!

    Reality soon to follow!

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    Brandon Glick

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Derek_Lee_Truther said:

    PCA has to come up at this point. Hottest hitter since he got put on Iowa. 

    Bench madrigal. Candy at 3 belli at 1 and pca in center. Guarenteed playoffs

    I don't disagree - would love to see him get a few chances. Could help his development down the line.

    Really the only thing stopping the Cubs once the calendar reaches August is whether they want to burn the spot on the 40-man roster.

    Derek_Lee_Truther

    Posted

    Best players have to play. It's that simple.

    If the roster crunch is bad you can cut someone else.

    UMFan83

    Posted

    12 hours ago, Brandon Glick said:

    I don't disagree - would love to see him get a few chances. Could help his development down the line.

    Really the only thing stopping the Cubs once the calendar reaches August is whether they want to burn the spot on the 40-man roster.

    Yeah that's tough considering they are already concerned about 40 man crunch.  But I'm guessing PCA would be put on the 40 man sometime in the next 12 months anyways, so any 40 man planning they do is with that in mind.

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    Brandon Glick

    Posted

    3 hours ago, Derek_Lee_Truther said:

    Best players have to play. It's that simple.

    If the roster crunch is bad you can cut someone else.

    I like the mentality of this, especially in a playoff push. But there is value to keeping guys on the 40-man who may not be quite ready yet. Development takes time. It's a tough balancing act of contending at all costs v.s. future benefits. 

    Brandon Glick

    Posted

    2 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

    Yeah that's tough considering they are already concerned about 40 man crunch.  But I'm guessing PCA would be put on the 40 man sometime in the next 12 months anyways, so any 40 man planning they do is with that in mind.

    Agreed. You'd have to imagine they go into the offseason expecting to put PCA on the 40 man after Spring Training (if he's not already on it). Still, keeping that extra spot open for an under-the-radar guy can be important -- look at Tauchman this year.

    Derek_Lee_Truther

    Posted

    Cubs need to be tired of losing. This team hasn't been a real contender since 17.

    Prove to the players and fans that you want to win. Stash seiya on the IL and bring up PCA. Do something to show that this team is for real.




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