8/29 Dodgers (Houlton) vs. Cubs (Williams), 7:05pm CSN, ESPN

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE FIFTH INNING

 

Houlton walked

A Perez flied out (foul) to right field

Robles grounded into a DP, 6-4-3, Houlton out at second

 

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base

 

            1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
Los Angeles 0 6 2 0 0            8 8 1 
CUBS        0 1 0 1              2 4 1 

 

Home run: CUBS: Burnitz (20), Garciaparra (3)

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Williams   1.7  5  6  5  3  0  0  45 
Wellemeyer 3.3  3  2  2  3  0  0  54 

[Blueheart05]

Ugh, just saw the lineup. I could see maybe starting some journeymen to showcase them for a trade, but they have to have some market value or it's goofy to play them at all. At this point I'm sure Holla's trade value is close to zero, and a few good games won't change that.

 

I disagree, this season notwithstanding, he has some value and the Cubs should try to get something for him. Afterall, he's a decent utility player and a career .304 pinch hitter. They might as well showcase him...

[frostwyrm]

the ESPN announcers are talking like Nomar is gone at the end of this season. man, he can swing the bat.

 

i wish we had a place to put him. ARam at 3B and Cedeno at SS leaves no room for a often hurt nomar. :cry:

 

Nomar needs to go to an AL team in need of a 3B. In the AL he can DH part-time, and he had all his success in the AL anyway. He's had nothing but bad luck in the NL.

[Blueheart05]

TWalk homers

 

8-3

[eburgcub]

:D WALKER.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

TWalk homers

 

8-3

 

I hope Hendry trades him.

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE FIFTH INNING

 

Macias, pinch hitting for Wellemeyer, struck out swinging

Hairston flied out to right field

Walker homered to right field

Lee popped out (foul) to first base

 

1 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base

 

            1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
Los Angeles 0 6 2 0 0            8 8 1 
CUBS        0 1 0 1 1            3 5 1 

 

Home run: CUBS: Burnitz (20), Garciaparra (3), Walker (10)

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 13-4 when they hit 3 or more HR's in a game.

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Blueheart05]

TWalk homers

 

8-3

 

I hope Hendry trades him.

 

Agreed but does that mean Hairston is our everyday second baseman next year?

[eburgcub]

Cubs have walked 7 already???

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 6-10 when they give up 7 or more walks.

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Blueheart05]

Wuertz is another walk machine...

 

I hate to see any combination of Wellemeyer and Wuertz.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

TWalk homers

 

8-3

 

I hope Hendry trades him.

 

Agreed but does that mean Hairston is our everyday second baseman next year?

 

I was being sarcastic. It would be a waste of resources for the Cubs to trade him and make another hole on the team. Hairston isn't healthy enough to play everyday.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Cubs have walked 7 already???

 

... and not a single strike out !!

[frostwyrm]

Ugh, just saw the lineup. I could see maybe starting some journeymen to showcase them for a trade, but they have to have some market value or it's goofy to play them at all. At this point I'm sure Holla's trade value is close to zero, and a few good games won't change that.

 

I disagree, this season notwithstanding, he has some value and the Cubs should try to get something for him. Afterall, he's a decent utility player and a career .304 pinch hitter. They might as well showcase him...

 

Holla's measly 900K salary is a decent indicator of how MLB general managers valued his talents in the offseason, and that was after he put up some excellent numbers filling in for Sosa in 2004. By now his stock must be much lower. I'd estimate he's a 500K scrub now in the eyes of MLB GM's. No one is going to get excited about him.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Wuertz is another walk machine...

 

I hate to see any combination of Wellemeyer and Wuertz.

 

And Williams and his 3 BBs in 1.2 IP.

[Fred Hornkohl]

The big "W" stand for:

 

Williams

 

Wellemeyer

 

Wuertz

 

Walk

[Blueheart05]

TWalk homers

 

8-3

 

I hope Hendry trades him.

 

Agreed but does that mean Hairston is our everyday second baseman next year?

 

I was being sarcastic. It would be a waste of resources for the Cubs to trade him and make another hole on the team. Hairston isn't healthy enough to play everyday.

 

I dont know... Walker has a great bat but his defense (along with Nomar and Aramis) is shaky at best. He also has limited range. If the Cubs have the opportunity to get a more defensive oriented infield (at short and second) then I think they should move in that direction. This team has to improve defensively.

[Blueheart05]

Wuertz is another walk machine...

 

I hate to see any combination of Wellemeyer and Wuertz.

 

And Williams and his 3 BBs in 1.2 IP.

 

Oh I didn't forget Williams pathetic showing. I just think it's worse for relievers to walk batters.

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE SIXTH INNING

 

Wuertz in to pitch for the CUBS

Kent walked

Valentin flied out to center field

Phillips singled to right field, Kent to third

Werth struck out swinging

Navarro struck out swinging

 

0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base

 

            1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
Los Angeles 0 6 2 0 0 0          8 9 1 
CUBS        0 1 0 1 1            3 5 1 

 

Home run: CUBS: Burnitz (20), Garciaparra (3), Walker (10)

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Williams   1.7  5  6  5  3  0  0  45 
Wellemeyer 3.3  3  2  2  3  0  0  54 
Wuertz     1.0  1  0  0  1  2  0  24 

[frostwyrm]

If Hill and Williams are dueling each other for a rotation spot next spring I'd put my money on Hill.

[Fred Hornkohl]

BEERNUTS !! x 2

[Blueheart05]

Ugh, just saw the lineup. I could see maybe starting some journeymen to showcase them for a trade, but they have to have some market value or it's goofy to play them at all. At this point I'm sure Holla's trade value is close to zero, and a few good games won't change that.

 

I disagree, this season notwithstanding, he has some value and the Cubs should try to get something for him. Afterall, he's a decent utility player and a career .304 pinch hitter. They might as well showcase him...

 

Holla's measly 900K salary is a decent indicator of how MLB general managers valued his talents in the offseason, and that was after he put up some excellent numbers filling in for Sosa in 2004. By now his stock must be much lower. I'd estimate he's a 500K scrub now in the eyes of MLB GM's. No one is going to get excited about him.

 

The salary of a utility player isn't necessarily an indicator of his real worth to a team. I stand by my belief that Hollandsworth has value and that some team(s) would like to have him.

 

Burnitz hits another homer

 

8-4

[CaliforniaRaisin]

TWalk homers

 

8-3

 

I hope Hendry trades him.

 

Agreed but does that mean Hairston is our everyday second baseman next year?

 

I was being sarcastic. It would be a waste of resources for the Cubs to trade him and make another hole on the team. Hairston isn't healthy enough to play everyday.

 

I dont know... Walker has a great bat but his defense (along with Nomar and Aramis) is shaky at best. He also has limited range. If the Cubs have the opportunity to get a more defensive oriented infield (at short and second) then I think they should move in that direction. This team has to improve defensively.

 

Improving IF defense is all well and good, but the offense is easily the biggest weakness of this team. Walker brings more to this team in his offense than he takes away with his defense - trading him away and creating another hole would be counter-intuitive.

 

Only 4 more solo HRs to tie the game, guys!

Edited August 30, 2005 by CaliforniaRaisin

[eburgcub]

:D BURNY