Giants extend Bumgarner

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

Seattle isn't exactly a small market team, and what other high price guys do they have? I think they'd break the bank for him if they had to.

 

I think it depends on how Hultzen/Walker/Paxton develop as well as their bats...Ackley and Smoak can be big time players as well.

 

There's the outside shot, but I think they trade him to supplement their new nucleus (if those guys work out).

 

Another young ace to really look forward to...David Price...unless a miracle happens there's little to no chance he stays in Tampa forever. He'll be a FA the same year as Porcello and Upton, after 2015. Like with Upton, they'll trade him. If you don't like Porcello ignore the name drop there for now...but big things a'comin with that guy.

[SABR Gamer]

Seattle isn't exactly a small market team, and what other high price guys do they have? I think they'd break the bank for him if they had to.

 

I think it depends on how Hultzen/Walker/Paxton develop as well as their bats...Ackley and Smoak can be big time players as well.

 

There's the outside shot, but I think they trade him to supplement their new nucleus (if those guys work out).

 

Another young ace to really look forward to...David Price...unless a miracle happens there's little to no chance he stays in Tampa forever. He'll be a FA the same year as Porcello and Upton, after 2015. Like with Upton, they'll trade him. If you don't like Porcello ignore the name drop there for now...but big things a'comin with that guy.

 

LOL I'll pass on a guy who strikes out less than 5 per 9 (4.8). He was barely over 5 per 9 (5.4) in the minors too, so it's not a fluke. Porcello will never be an elite pitcher.

 

I realize how young he is, but I just don't believe in him, I don't think he's going to be that great. I could be wrong though, who knows.

[Smack]

Bumgarner grew up and went to school with my boss's nephews. He said he's a great kid, and actually scored us, through my boss's brother, some free tickets last year when SF was in Milawaukee playing the Brewers.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

LOL I'll pass on a guy who strikes out less than 5 per 9 (4.8). He was barely over 5 per 9 (5.4) in the minors too, so it's not a fluke. Porcello will never be an elite pitcher.

 

I realize how young he is, but I just don't believe in him, I don't think he's going to be that great. I could be wrong though, who knows.

 

Done the Porcello thing multiple times here and I stand by what I say:

 

- K's are about the only thing he doesn't do well. He gets groundballs, throws strikes, stays healthy...These are huge and IMO outweigh the lack of strikeouts. This is particularly true since the bulk of his minor league appearances happened as a 19 moved quickly for only 125 innings...context...it's huge when gliding over numbers. Yes, I realize that K's are a pretty damn good predictive stat, but it's not the *only* predictive stat.

 

- If you realize how young he is then you realize that it significantly turns the odds of him becoming a star in the majors in his favor. This is a guy who came up as a 20 year old and won 14 games (and yes, I realize that wins are frowned upon as a real stat) with essentially one pitch (his first two seasons saw him throwing his fastball 70% of the time, it's shrank to 65-68% in the past two years). Not only that but we've seen a steady decline in his xFIP from '09-'11 and through only a couple of starts this year he's beating last year's. We're only now seeing him incorporate more pitches on a somewhat consistent basis, and it's still in the very early stages of that.

 

- Don't know if he'll ever be elite but do think Porcello will be a very good ML pitcher over the long haul, which is what this is all about right now. At his age many of the game's elite were going through the own struggles with their own statistical flaws...I still have a reeeeeeally tough time counting out a guy who's been above average since 20 with (basically) one pitch. I've caught both his starts this year and I fully expect I'll be proven right on this one over the long haul, because he's looked really [expletive] good. That sinker has the chance to be an elite pitch as time goes by...