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Worth going for? There seems to be a match at least on the surface. Tsuyoshi Nishioka broke his leg today, leaving the Twins needing a second baseman. We have an excess of second base types, and a big friggin hole in the rotation.

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I don't think that any of the monsters heads would get us Slowy. Now if I thought that Wells and Cashner would be gone for long, I'd be willing to pay the price for Slowey, but I don't see Wells missing more than a few starts, and even if we lose Cashner for a long period of time, I'd prefer to see if Coleman can be a decent 5 before giving out any more prospects.
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I'd prefer to see if Coleman can be a decent 5

 

let me answer that for you - he cannot.

 

Coleman could be a decent #5 pitcher for a short time. With off days and rain outs he might only be needed for 1-2 starts.

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I'd prefer to see if Coleman can be a decent 5

 

let me answer that for you - he cannot.

 

I don't know about that. He could very well be another guy like John Lannan or even Aaron Cook. One big thing that all 3 have in common is that they have a pretty low home run rate for how many balls they let in play. They also keep the ball on the ground (although the other two I mentioned do a little better than Coleman on that). Coleman could easily land somewhere between a 4.3 and a 5 ERA and anywhere in that range would be a decent 5.

 

The thing that jumps out at me after the K/BB ratio is the number of hits Coleman gives up and why it is consistently low. How does a pitcher who only strikes out 5.2 batters in their minor league career keep their number of hits allowed to just under 1 per inning? How does that pitcher continue to do that in the major leagues even when his strikeout rate slips to 4.26? And why does he allow less extra base hits than a normal pitcher? (his OPS allowed last year was actually quite good). It could be a massive string of luck or it could be something else. I don't think it is fair to think that given enough time he'll inevitably slip into being a 5.25-6 ERA type of pitcher. There's enough evidence to wonder if there is something beyond the K/BB ratio in Coleman's case.

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I'd prefer to see if Coleman can be a decent 5

 

let me answer that for you - he cannot.

 

But still, Slowey is a 26 year old could be 2-3 starter. Would he really be worth what it would likely cost to get him(Baker, Barney, or DeWitt might be an acceptable throw in) if all we are trying to fill is the 5 starter role? Dont get me wrong, Id love Slowey in the rotation, but he wouldnt come cheap. Hed more than likely cost at least 1 of McNutt, Jackson, or Vitters and then some.

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I'd prefer to see if Coleman can be a decent 5

 

let me answer that for you - he cannot.

 

But still, Slowey is a 26 year old could be 2-3 starter. Would he really be worth what it would likely cost to get him(Baker, Barney, or DeWitt might be an acceptable throw in) if all we are trying to fill is the 5 starter role? Dont get me wrong, Id love Slowey in the rotation, but he wouldnt come cheap. Hed more than likely cost at least 1 of McNutt, Jackson, or Vitters and then some.

 

Kevin Slowey is not a could be 2-3 starter. He didn't even make the twins rotation.

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I'd prefer to see if Coleman can be a decent 5

 

let me answer that for you - he cannot.

 

But still, Slowey is a 26 year old could be 2-3 starter. Would he really be worth what it would likely cost to get him(Baker, Barney, or DeWitt might be an acceptable throw in) if all we are trying to fill is the 5 starter role? Dont get me wrong, Id love Slowey in the rotation, but he wouldnt come cheap. Hed more than likely cost at least 1 of McNutt, Jackson, or Vitters and then some.

 

Kevin Slowey is not a could be 2-3 starter. He didn't even make the twins rotation.

I guess I thought he was better than he is, but there is still a premium on young, solid starting pitching. Hed probably cost st least a similar package to what we got for Gorzalanny.

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