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An 88 win season and a winning percentage around .535 over 1+ years? Jim Hendry has also accomplished this feat, but I doubt anyone would call him a success

 

I'm not really inclined to relive this argument. It's been done by guys that can argue this topic a lot better than I can. I'll let you read the article that Rob posted if you want. I suspect you won't though, because it has nerd numbers in it. So you go on thinking what you want. That's fine.

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An 88 win season and a winning percentage around .535 over 1+ years? Jim Hendry has also accomplished this feat, but I doubt anyone would call him a success

 

I'm not really inclined to relive this argument. It's been done by guys that can argue this topic a lot better than I can. I'll let you read the article that Rob posted if you want. I suspect you won't though, because it has nerd numbers in it. So you go on thinking what you want. That's fine.

Good to see NSBB's gneralized assumption-making and stereotyping is still at work. Just because I don't think DePodesta is a particularly good GM (or should be coveted by anyone at this point) doesn't mean I don't think numbers have value. He just didn't really show me anything to suggest he'd win the Cubs a World Series. I saw the article and, at first glance, it looks like basically any other GM's resume regarding trades: some good ones, some bad ones. I'll read it more in-depth later. I know you'll give him credit for Penny but remember: Penny isn't supposed to be on the Dodgers. He's only there because DePodesta couldn't complete a deal for Randy Johnson. But I don't really want to relive this argument either, as I doubt either of us will budge from our stances.

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Haven't read Moneyball.

 

isn't that the book Billy Beane wrote?

 

I thought Joe Morgan wrote it?

 

no, no, no, a COMPUTER wrote it

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Good to see NSBB's gneralized assumption-making and stereotyping is still at work. Just because I don't think DePodesta is a particularly good GM (or should be coveted by anyone at this point) doesn't mean I don't think numbers have value. He just didn't really show me anything to suggest he'd win the Cubs a World Series. I saw the article and, at first glance, it looks like basically any other GM's resume regarding trades: some good ones, some bad ones. I'll read it more in-depth later. I know you'll give him credit for Penny but remember: Penny isn't supposed to be on the Dodgers. He's only there because DePodesta couldn't complete a deal for Randy Johnson. But I don't really want to relive this argument either, as I doubt either of us will budge from our stances.

 

Lets not pretend you're not doing the same thing though, ok? You're the one that made the Billy Beane and Moneyball references, implying that was the only reason I was interested in him as GM, when in fact that has almost nothing to do with it.

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