Miller's spot in the rotation?

[dew1679666265]

Miller is fried, please don't give him starts that belong to more deserving candidates.

 

The problem is, who's truly more deserving? I'm all for playing the kids at this point, but I don't want kids that clearly not ready up here doing nothing but hurting their confidence. As long as Miller doesn't push out Z, Hill or Marshall I'm ok. Marmol needs to be in the minors to work on his control and Mateo and Guzman could use the work down there to.

 

The problem with that is the minor league season is over in 4 games. Even if the minor league season wasn't coming to a finish, I'm not sure why these guys couldn't work in the big leagues.

 

D'oh, I completely forgot the minors was ending, it's late and I'm tired. I do think they could work in the majors but for Marmol especially, he's looked borderline terrible with his control. Moving to the minors would take a little pressure off of him in that the hitters he faces would not be as good, thus he could work on his control. Even with the minors ending, I still think Miller should get a start or two and see if he's got anything. If he does have nothing, put the kids back in there.

 

Exactly.

 

I personally doubt Miller has that much left, but he very well could. With the potential upside, though, it's a great idea to just shove him aside. Why not give him a chance?

[Sammy Sofa]

We've already seen Miller has nothing left from his time in the minors. He has no velocity, and he got hit hard. The last few years have taught us that when you have a chance to see what your prospects have, you need to take it. The more time they get at the ML level the better.

 

And 3 of them can still get the chance. Hell, more if they work out of the bullpen. And it's not like they just showed up and barely got a chance to play. If Miller's gets shelled after a couple starts, boom, pull him and put a rookie back in. Now we know for sure.

[dew1679666265]

We've already seen Miller has nothing left from his time in the minors. He has no velocity, and he got hit hard. The last few years have taught us that when you have a chance to see what your prospects have, you need to take it. The more time they get at the ML level the better.

 

I agree, but if Miller can regain any of his old form, he could be a very solid pitcher at a cheap price. Miller's not going 7 innings a game anyway, so why not bring in a youngster from the pen after Miller goes (hopefully) 5?

[dew1679666265]

We've already seen Miller has nothing left from his time in the minors. He has no velocity, and he got hit hard. The last few years have taught us that when you have a chance to see what your prospects have, you need to take it. The more time they get at the ML level the better.

 

And 3 of them can still get the chance. Hell, more if they work out of the bullpen. And it's not like they just showed up and barely got a chance to play. If Miller's gets shelled after a couple starts, boom, pull him and put a rookie back in. Now we know for sure.

 

I notice we keep making many of the same points. You must be real smart. :)

[stitchface]

if the cubs go to a four man rotation to try and get Z wins, I may personally . . . well, I will be very angry. that's about the worst idea I have ever heard.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Miller is fried, please don't give him starts that belong to more deserving candidates.

 

Like who?

 

I think the only 2 rookies that basically NEED to be in the rotation right now are Guzman and Hill, especially the latter. Combine them with Z and you've still got 2 spots open. Marshall was up for pretty much the whole year...does he really desperately need this last month? What's he got left to prove? Marmol's injured right now and Mateo I think would be better off working out of the bullpen (I still think he could make a great closer down the line). Yes, there are always other people to try out, but Miller's here for 1 more month...why not see what he can do? What is there to lose? More fun with Rusch? Because you know Dusty's using him before they bring up any more rookies.

 

Mateo needs innings. The minor league season is about over, so I'd rather he get a start than Miller. Zambrano, Marshall, Marmol, Hill, Guzman for the last month.

 

Why does Mateo need innings? He's going to be chillin' in AAA next season.

[RichHillIsABeast]

if the cubs go to a four man rotation to try and get Z wins, I may personally . . . well, I will be very angry. that's about the worst idea I have ever heard.

 

Do you remember what we did to get Maddux 15 last season?

[stitchface]

if the cubs go to a four man rotation to try and get Z wins, I may personally . . . well, I will be very angry. that's about the worst idea I have ever heard.

 

Do you remember what we did to get Maddux 15 last season?

 

also silly but not quite as risky as overworking zambrano. frankly, zambrano should be shut down. that won't happen, but to go to a four man rotation would really cement the cubs management as amongst the worst in baseball history.

[RichHillIsABeast]

if the cubs go to a four man rotation to try and get Z wins, I may personally . . . well, I will be very angry. that's about the worst idea I have ever heard.

 

Do you remember what we did to get Maddux 15 last season?

 

also silly but not quite as risky as overworking zambrano. frankly, zambrano should be shut down. that won't happen, but to go to a four man rotation would really cement the cubs management as amongst the worst in baseball history.

 

I agree. It's dumb, but let's not forget who we're dealing with here.

[frostwyrm]

If Miller does well what reason is there to believe he'll give the Cubs a discount for 2007? His career is hanging by a thread and he'll most likely try to get every dollar he can because he knows 2007 could be his last hurrah. If it were up to me he would have been released in early June and he would've had to come up with his rehab and meal money out of his own pocket.

[Sammy Sofa]

If Miller does well what reason is there to believe he'll give the Cubs a discount for 2007? His career is hanging by a thread and he'll most likely try to get every dollar he can because he knows 2007 could be his last hurrah. If it were up to me he would have been released in early June and he would've had to come up with his rehab and meal money out of his own pocket.

 

I think he'd have to be downright Cy Young-esque in this last month for him to demand the kind of money you're implying, from any team.