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Jason Marquis stats are skewed by his ridiculous start to the season. Jason was awesome his first month to month in a half of the season, but since then he has came back to earth, and remembered he is Jason Marquis. Since the All Star Break(4 starts) Jason has a 6.75 ERA and a 1.59 Whip, thats not good. He has gotten progressively worse in every month of the season April 2.35 ERA 1.17 WHip May 3.38 ERA 1.05 Whip June 5.09 ERA 1.70 Whip and July 6.29 ERA 1.51 Whip. Now take into consideration that over the course of Marquis career he has historically been terrible in the 2nd half every year, there is definatly cause for concern. Marquis is much more likely to continue on his terrible performances, and there is a very good reason for concern regarding him. At this piont, Gallagher is a much better bet to give you better pitching than Marquis is, and the sad thing is we have Marquis for another 2 years and 14 million dollars Yeah, that's why it's called an earned run average. Every pitcher goes through peaks and valleys, we're just lucky that Jason had such a great peak. I'm guessing not many (if any) of the other number 5 starters in baseball had that great of a peak. His contract is awful, but that's not on him. As the 5th starter on this team, he's doing his job better than every single other pitcher that has that role for other teams. It's pretty ignorant for people to slam him cause he isn't one of the top pitchers in the league. Hes not the 5th starter on this team, hes the #3. 4 runs in 5 innings tonight, once again a crap performance. The guy sucks in the 2nd half throughout his career and its not changing this year. He continues to tax our bullpen every outing, since he cant even make it past 6 innings. Hes a joke, and his contract that our dumbass GM gave him is even more of a joke. Did you watch tonight's game? Those four runs weren't exactly cause he was he getting lit up. Two that I can remember were a direct result of Pagan's suckage. And fine, he's the number three starter. His ERA prior to tonight's start was in the upper 40% of starters... in other words, if you're purely looking at ERA and assembling a rotation for each team, Marquis would be a number two starter. I won't argue about the contract. Three years was completely unnecessary. After the year he had last year, it should've been a one year deal with a team option for a second year.

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What did Lou do?

God damn it.

Classy crowd tonight.

It's not nonsense. He's the 5th best starter on this team. It's silly to compare him to other team's aces and such. It makes sense to see how he performs compared to other team's 5th starters. And he performs very well. Better than every other team's 5th starter. He's doing his job. What?? "He's doing his job"?? What's his job? To pitch us out of games? To give up 4 runs in 5 IP? He's sucked the past 2 months. He's the "5th starter" because he's easily the worst on our staff. He's making too much money to have a above 5 ERA. Seriously, why do you continue to say that? It's a flat out lie. If you're not going to be truthful, I'm not going to waste time talking to you. what the hell is the matter with you? june -- 5.09 era july -- 6.29 august -- 4 runs and counting in 5 innings. who's lying? What the hell is the matter with you man? He has had good outtings and bad ones. Half good, half bad. That doesn't mean he's been awful. Look at his freaking game log. Try and have someone read it to you if you still don't understand. He's given you the stats and you still can't admit that Marquis sucks. Last I heard a 4 plus ERA is not very good, let alone a 5 and 6 plus. I won't admit it because it's simply not true. 27th best ERA in the league, and he sucks? Please.

It's not nonsense. He's the 5th best starter on this team. It's silly to compare him to other team's aces and such. It makes sense to see how he performs compared to other team's 5th starters. And he performs very well. Better than every other team's 5th starter. He's doing his job. What?? "He's doing his job"?? What's his job? To pitch us out of games? To give up 4 runs in 5 IP? He's sucked the past 2 months. He's the "5th starter" because he's easily the worst on our staff. He's making too much money to have a above 5 ERA. Seriously, why do you continue to say that? It's a flat out lie. If you're not going to be truthful, I'm not going to waste time talking to you. what the hell is the matter with you? june -- 5.09 era july -- 6.29 august -- 4 runs and counting in 5 innings. who's lying? What the hell is the matter with you man? He has had good outtings and bad ones. Half good, half bad. That doesn't mean he's been awful. Look at his freaking game log. Try and have someone read it to you if you still don't understand.

Fine, consider him a #3 starter. He's better than most every #3 starter too. He has the 27th best ERA in the league.

It's not nonsense. He's the 5th best starter on this team. It's silly to compare him to other team's aces and such. It makes sense to see how he performs compared to other team's 5th starters. And he performs very well. Better than every other team's 5th starter. He's doing his job. What?? "He's doing his job"?? What's his job? To pitch us out of games? To give up 4 runs in 5 IP? He's sucked the past 2 months. He's the "5th starter" because he's easily the worst on our staff. He's making too much money to have a above 5 ERA. Seriously, why do you continue to say that? It's a flat out lie. If you're not going to be truthful, I'm not going to waste time talking to you.

It's not nonsense. He's the 5th best starter on this team. It's silly to compare him to other team's aces and such. It makes sense to see how he performs compared to other team's 5th starters. And he performs very well. Better than every other team's 5th starter. He's doing his job.

Yeah, aside from the fact that he hasn't. Damn it DeRosa, what the hell What was his July ERA again? 6? Yeah, he's awesome. Look at his game log. He hasn't been as bad as you make him out to be. As I said in another thread, he's the best 5th starter in baseball too. You're right, I was wrong. He's been bad for 9 weeks. His June ERA was over 5 and his July ERA was over 6. Yeah, great, he can mix in one good start amidst 3 godawful ones. We should be lucky we have him for 3 years. 3 of his last 6 starts have been quality. No 5th starter in baseball has a better ERA than Marquis. Keep the hyperbole coming.

Geez, Pagan really clobbered that one.

Entourage is on at 9 I don't want to miss Wood's debut, so I'm kinda torn on whether to watch Entourage tonight or just watch it on On Demand tomorrow.

Yeah, aside from the fact that he hasn't. Damn it DeRosa, what the hell What was his July ERA again? 6? Yeah, he's awesome. Look at his game log. He hasn't been as bad as you make him out to be. As I said in another thread, he's the best 5th starter in baseball too.

Yeah, aside from the fact that he hasn't. Damn it DeRosa, what the hell

I really wonder why Lou didn't just put Murton in rather than shuffing three players. I'm seriously starting tho think he has something against him.

Again, it hasn't been good-bad-good-bad. He started hot and then has nosedived. If you take a look at his game log, you'll see that that's simply not true. In fact, 3 out of his last 6 starts have been quality ones.

His lack of defense sure did hurt the Cubs yesterday on that slider in the dirt in the 8th, didn't it? That was huge, and basically went unnoticed by a lot of people on here. Or at least I haven't seen anything about it.

Jason Marquis stats are skewed by his ridiculous start to the season. Jason was awesome his first month to month in a half of the season, but since then he has came back to earth, and remembered he is Jason Marquis. Since the All Star Break(4 starts) Jason has a 6.75 ERA and a 1.59 Whip, thats not good. He has gotten progressively worse in every month of the season April 2.35 ERA 1.17 WHip May 3.38 ERA 1.05 Whip June 5.09 ERA 1.70 Whip and July 6.29 ERA 1.51 Whip. Now take into consideration that over the course of Marquis career he has historically been terrible in the 2nd half every year, there is definatly cause for concern. Marquis is much more likely to continue on his terrible performances, and there is a very good reason for concern regarding him. At this piont, Gallagher is a much better bet to give you better pitching than Marquis is, and the sad thing is we have Marquis for another 2 years and 14 million dollars Yeah, that's why it's called an earned run average. Every pitcher goes through peaks and valleys, we're just lucky that Jason had such a great peak. I'm guessing not many (if any) of the other number 5 starters in baseball had that great of a peak. His contract is awful, but that's not on him. As the 5th starter on this team, he's doing his job better than every single other pitcher that has that role for other teams. It's pretty ignorant for people to slam him cause he isn't one of the top pitchers in the league.

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DKWG is exactly right. And he understated it quite a bit actually. In terms of ERA, Jason Marquis is the best 5th starter in baseball. And it's not even close really. It seems like people always want Marquis to be lights out every start, which is totally reasonable -- I want the same thing. But it's not reasonable to claim that he sucks and blah blah blah because he isn't great every time. Again, Marquis is better than every single team's 5th starter, and quite a bit of team's 4th starters too.

Randall Simon is still playing? I didn't know that. Man, what a huge boost he was that year.

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