Stone was/is arrogant and self absorbed, for sure. But he was a very good analyst who was far easier to listen to than Otto, Carter and even Brenly. As far as the whole 2004 fiasco, Stone was out of line. But Mercker, Alou and Co. were being freaking babies. It was an ugly situation on both sides of the equation, exacerbated by the fact the team was in the process of folding like a lawn chair. If Stone's meddling was a significant contributing factor, that doesn't say much for the team. If a person wants to call Stone a meddling, arrogant, self-aggrandizing ass, that's fine. He is. But he is also a fine analyst. Chip Caray however, is a boob in all regards, as far as I can tell. joe carter :shock: haven't seen that name mentioned around here in a while.