I really dont understand all the talk about us needing a starter. Z and Lilly are a good 1-2 combo, and Rich Hill and Marshall's numbers are better than 3/4 of the #3 starters in baseball. Marshall seems to really catch alot of the "I just dont trust him" comments and can I ask why? look at these numbers...2 2 1 1 2 4 0 6 2 2 1 You know what those numbers are? Those are the earned runs given up by Marshall in his 11 starts, seriously what more does this guy have to do to garner some faith? Rich Hills numbers put him in the top 30 pitchers in baseball, and you dont think he is good enough to be a number 3 starter? What do you expect out of a number 3, because you are going to be hard pressed to find somebody with better numbers than Hill and Marshall. I have my doubts on how well they'll pitch in a playoff push in September. Hill started out great but has been unpredictable lately. The same for Marshall. Assuming, the Cubs 5 starter rotation is set through the rest of the year, let's get together and talk at the end of September. I will gladly admit I was wrong if Marquis, Hill, and Marshall are pitching strong and consistent. All 3 have been showing signs of inconsistency. I have my doubts, however. that in a playoff race, they will be consistent enough to win. If we don't get another bat, and it's looking more and more like we won't, it's gonna be our pitching that will define whether we are a legitimate playoff team or not. What about Marshalls numbers are inconsistent? 2 2 1 1 2 4 0 6 2 2 1 If thats not consistency, then I dont know what is So you went from Hill to Marshall?? :wink: Well then make Marshall your number 3. Right now Marquis is in that position....do you think that's warranted? Let's see how Marshall holds up under the pressure of a pennant race. I don't have the confidence that he will be consistent in a MUST WIN scenerio. As I said, I'll gladly admit if I'm wrong....and I hope I am. I dont know what you are talking about, 90% of my post was about Marshall and his earned runs given up so far this season. As for who is 1 2 3 4 5 right now, it doesnt mean a damn thing. After the 1st week of the season, and sometimes right after the ASB does your #1 usually face the other teams # 1 and same goes for the rest of the rotation. If the playoffs started today, and we were in them, I have no doubt in my mind that Marquis would not be the pitcher starting in game 3. And as far as them being consistent in a must win scenerio, Id like their chances against all the other teams 3rd best starter.