That's completely different than what I said I was talking about. These fans think that if a projection of.500 is the best you can do, you should instead try to get worse rather than better. Well that is completely different than what was being discussed and a completely different point to try and make. That's exactly what I was discussing when you said you didn't get why it was frustrating. "You don't get it so much at NSBB, but there's a serious notion among Cubs fans on the internet that going into a season with a .500 projection is undesirable because you can't be a contender but you'll ruin your draft position."