Hairyducked Idiot
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You're still not making sense. The Cardinals have a good, young team that they didn't need top draft picks to get because they had success in the past? Edit: misread what you said But whether it should have been said or not, it was: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=7147793 A good front office could/should/would have built this team on both fronts. They would have fixed the crappy organizational infrastructure and used the emerging farm system (which wasn't as bad as many would have you believe now) simultaneous to improving the MLB roster. We'd have an above-average team and an above-average farm system right now, and that would be real sustained success. Not losing a bunch and then hopefully winning a bunch later.
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That makes no sense. So St. Louis put together their current awesome pile of young talent without top draft picks because they used to have Pujols when he was awesome?
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Kyle *is* being logical. Unrelated: Have you guys ever looked back at old threads and noticed that the smart posters and dumb posters end up being right pretty much the same amount of the time?
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If the "alternative" is to win 75-80 games after three seasons, don't they kinda suck at their jobs? Putting together a good baseball team once in awhile isn't some magically hard thing to do. After this year, more than half the league will have made the playoffs in the time that Epstein and Hoyer have been here.
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Come on, the new CBA didn't suddenly turn this into the NBA draft. The CBA thing is ridiculous. People act like elite prospects were just sitting there in the 4th round ready to be poached under the old system. Teams spent a bunch of extra money to get a very small amount of extra draft value, and they took that away, but it wasn't some seismic shift in how the draft works. Ever looked at who the non-first-round 7-figure draftees were under Epstein in Boston? They all ended up sucking.
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When you put forth the argument that we somehow *needed* to have top draft picks, you're basically forfeiting the idea that this front office can build sustained success. They're just doing the old small-market "window" thing where you build up a bunch of prospects for a 3-5 year run. Teams that have real sustained success like the Cardinals or Red Sox don't need to draft in the top-5 a bunch of years in a row to get production from their farm system. If this front office did, then they aren't as good as you think.
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PTR may be responsible for most of it, but the front office quite explicitly said they left payroll on the table this year.
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How are we going to have the imaginary decade of dominance if this front office can only draft well at the front of the draft?
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that all boils down to personal opinion, based on how much nuanced thought and reasoning you're willing to commit to the exercise; i'm not really interested in that argument at this time but i mostly assume somebody making the accusation that '12 was voluntary suckitude is doing so with the main intent of losing my respect for their opinions in general All I hear is "oh man, it would have been hard to put together a good team. That makes it OK that they made so many bad decisions."
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Good effort. Now justify away the other two years, too.
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You guys are looking at it all wrong. The sooner we start burning through service time on these guys, the sooner we can let them go via free agency and get those sweet, sweet comp picks.
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Is this based on the finding pitchers in the next 18-24 months quote? Or did he say something else? Yeah, that one. That's a pretty big "we'll take what we can get this offseason, but we're not going to get serious about putting together a real, complete roster" signal, imo.
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Hoyer's already hinting about 2016 being the real target, so I don't think we're going to get any 'call-up to smooth the adjustment before 2015' for Baez. Ugh.
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I am awful. But so are Theo Epstein's Cubs. A 21:2 vote is a travesty.
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Wtf.this is almost as dumb as the Rizzo thing. Theo is the [expletive]. How dare he hate the man who has led his favorite baseball team to a .401 win percentage.
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Poor guy, all he had was Starlin Castro, Jeff Samardzija, Matt Garza, Wellington Castillo, Ryan Dempster, Andrew Cashner, Darwin Barney. Not a spec of MLB production or trade value in that bunch.
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Hey sneaky, now that you're here, I've been meaning to ask you if you still think I'm crazy for calling Junior Lake's line drive percentage last year a fluke.
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Hoyer's already hinting that 2015 isn't going to be the year they are focusing on either. The decade-long window stuff is fantasy. It *might* happen, but that's like 95th percentile stuff. There's too much parity in MLB and too much dragging teams toward the middle. Even Theo's Red Sox made the playoffs six years out of seven, then missed it four out of five. That's probably what we'll be looking at, too, in the best-case scenario. And that's hoping that all the stacked young teams in the NL Central start screwing up.
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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qbpD5ljWuPg/TG1nyjWux2I/AAAAAAAAAEs/_YiYL4d3nek/s1600/Patrick+holding+PS3+games.jpg What if we take the expectations for Epstein to do his @$@#!% job and put together a successful baseball team ... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qbpD5ljWuPg/TG1n5cblDuI/AAAAAAAAAE0/E48c4ttF5J4/s1600/Patrick+pushing+PS3+games.jpg ... and push them another year into the future every time he fails.
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Who thought the "plan" was going to take a shorter amount of time than this? Literally everyone three years ago. Even the people who wanted to rebuild would say things like "If we're not good by 2014, then I'll be right there with you."
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Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-3-14
Hairyducked Idiot replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
He's going to OPS 2.200 in September, which I believe is only one game. -
What makes them magically immune to variance in the postseason? Building a team that can repeatedly make the playoffs, and have more and more chances to have variance work to their advantage. So how many times are you envisioning them making it under this regime? I'm just saying "complete confidence" is probably unfounded. Even if they make it 6, 7 times, they still could easily not win it all in that time.
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I, of course, vote no. The "plan" predictably is taking much longer than many thought originally, and Hoyer is already laying the groundwork for having excuses in place for 2015 as well. Nobody makes the playoffs every single year under the new CBA, so they probably won't be making it often enough to turn their 0-for-4 into anything other than a middling average.
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What makes them magically immune to variance in the postseason?