I haven't read this whole thread, but let me say I don't like moving Guzman to the pen. He's been an effective starter, and I don't like rolling the dice with the rotation. If the move is to make Marshall the fifth starter, I can tolerate this move. If it is to make Miller the fifth, the it is dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. I'd rather them bring Holliman up than to make Miller the number five. Miller is done. It's time to stick a fork in him.