More than likely, they will never stop believing in luck Ahhhh, the anonymous 'they'. Who exactly are 'they'? I would assume he means the ones who currently believe in luck. Point being (just like always), nobody's opinion will be swayed on a message board (believe me, I try harder than anybody! :lol: ) That's not entirely true. My opinion has been swayed. Opinions can be changed, but only when people approach these places as open exchanges of ideas. You complain that no one ever changes their opinion. Have you ever changed one of yours as a result of a message forum? Finally, if you believe no one ever changes their opinions, why do you waste your time here or any other forum for that matter. I strongly believe that if someone makes an informed case that it can assist others. It may take a lot, and at times, it means accepting that some people come here with certain preconceived notions which take longer to change if they ever change, but ideas can be changed. However, if someone approaches it with the idea that all their ideas are right and that they shouldn't learn from others, I find it hypocritical to complain or mock others who also hold to their ideas.