Won't shed a tear for the guy who won't shut up come January. Even if I'd prefer a winter in Chicago to a winter in LA? It's quaint from afar. As if I haven't lived in Chicago before and don't visit a few Christmases. :) Yeah, you'll be taking your kids to the snow machine this holiday season. Wimp! :wink: Raisin must have been about 10 when he had these kids you speak of. :lol: