we're talking about game seven of the celtics-bulls series, that play where hinrich stole the ball from pierce, correct? just making sure we're on the same page because right now i feel like i'm taking crazy pills. he did grab him briefly when hinrich tipped the ball away. it wasn't what made hinrich fall, but Pierce did grab him. i guess my definition of grab is different than other people's. i consider a grab to be when one person puts his arm out and either grasps or impedes the progress of another player, not when two guys' arms barely rub against each other. it's pretty irrelevant though; if they called every time there was that much contact there would be 500 fouls each game. it was a really bad call but it's the nba, so i sort of expect that. when you hook another players arm with your hand, that's kind of the definition of grabbing.