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Da'Rick, Quentin Patton, Keenan Allen, Ryan Swope, Markus Wheaton, Cobi Hamilton all interesting options. And they drafted a tackle. *shrug*

Jets picking....lots of good WRs and RBs still on the board. Do they take one?

They probably aren't high on any specific one, and there's no way Wilson/Bray/Nassib/Glennon are all off the board before they pick again.

That's at least the 3rd pick announcer who got the decade wrong. :lol:

I saw him projected as a high 2nd and possible late 1st all offseason, so it makes sense.

I still like Poyer and Wreh-Wilson quite a bit at CB. Big fan of Poyer. Not so much for Wreh-Wilson. A guy I really like is Steve Williams out of CAL. 5-9, but one of the fastest guys at the combine. Better pro than college player, IMO. Maybe more of a 5th rounder. Brandon McGee and Hawthorne are guys I like too. I like Gratz more than Wreh-Wilson also, FWIW. Gotta admit, I don't know Gratz at all. I am definitely higher on Poyer than Wreh-Wilson, but there are still quality CBs out there. Speaking of Gratz, there he goes.

I still like Poyer and Wreh-Wilson quite a bit at CB.

Taylor still around. I prefer him to Amerson, who was just awful last season. Yeah, I like Taylor too. Was hoping one or both of Amerson and Banks would last longer though. I like him too, which is good, because the Dolphins got him. And it's pretty official that the Chiefs won't get a 2nd from the Dolphins for Albert, which they didn't want to give up anyway.

Man, Cincy loves giant DEs.

Dolphins coming up, and I'm thinking Jamar Taylor, Quinton Patton, or Terron Armstead, though there are other players they could throw me for a loop on.

What happened to him? I swear I saw mocks that had him in the top 10 a couple months ago. He dropped a lot when teams couldn't figure out if he could play De or OLB. Getting outbenched by Tavon Austin probably didn't help, either.

What happened to him? I swear I saw mocks that had him in the top 10 a couple months ago. That was a couple of months ago.

Man, I forgot all about Damontre Moore.

Watson is British, a former basketball player, and inexperienced, but with a ton of upside due to his athleticism. He played RT at FSU but could eventually project to be a quality LT. He was one of the tackle options I was looking at for the Dolphins in the 2nd, along with Long and Armstead.

Wait 'til the 4th when they have guys who won contests announcing picks.

Davone Bess traded to the Browns. I'll miss him, but it's a deal that makes sense. He was done after this year, and they weren't going to keep a slot-only receiver (unless it was Tavon Austin, who they apparently tried to trade up for but couldn't).

People are skeptical of a CB who couldn't run in the 4.4's at his pro day and ran about 4.6 at the combine.

dew probably jumped through his ceiling.

The biggest issue I have with the Jets is picking Milliner when Wilson and Cromartie were so good last year. Maybe they're afraid Cromartie will hold out soon so he can feed his next litter of kids. Then again, nickel corner is basically a starter now, and having a young guy does provide positional security as players come up for new deals.

If we're talking about the same post, I think it was determined his beef was actually with McShay. Actually, it was both, and it was specifically for the nonsense mocking of DJ Fluker to the Dolphins at 12. Of course, that never would have happened anyway since the Dolphins traded up to 3 and Fluker was gone already gone at 11, but if he had been there, there's no way the Dolphins would have taken him because he was a terrible fit and the opposite of what they're trying to accomplish (get leaner and more athletic on the line). It does say a lot that the people who basically get paid year-round to study this stuff can't even break 25%, but it's not really surprising, because it's a high-variable game in which being wrong once increases your chances of being wrong thereafter. As for how poorly the Jets did or didn't do, I'm not especially on board with their picks, but it's not because they weren't offense. Yeah, they need help on offense more than anything, but we're talking about day one, and they have several picks left in the deepest part of the draft. I think BPA is somewhat overstated and is rarely realistic in most positions unless a team is impossibly bad or impossibly good. There are always tiers of players, and it makes sense to pick a guy at a position you want before there's a tier drop. Conversely, there were all of 5 skill position players picked in the first round, so the Jets will be able to pick offensive as though they were still in the first, only without the first round cost..

I don' think the Raiders got bad value on their pick. I would have liked that pick if the Dolphins still had it. It just seems like an odd choice considering their needs and all. I was definitely happy to get the #3 for only #12 and #42, though. Just goes to show that the old trade value chart doesn't mean as much as people claim it does, and the player matters much more.

I don't think it cost as much as it appears. I think it just accelerated what eventually would have happened anyway. He's a middle linebacker, which isn't a glamour position in the first place, and he's limited athletically, and he looked bad in his last, biggest college game. The hype was likely to wear off eventually. The real world board changes all the time between January and April.

They think he's Harvin. Profile is similar. Harvin and Patterson are pretty dissimilar.

LOL. He keeps adding a disclaimer that it's a reach while you say stupid [expletive] like Long's a third rounder. I realize as a Chicago management lapdog you have trouble with these discussions so I will just pretend you make any sense at all. The third round comment was a freaking intentionally hyperbolic comparison to the equivalent level of over draft and all the moronic commentary about how he was next in line and they had to take him or risk losing him in the second. If you can't understand the simple things there's no use To be fair, it gets really hard to tell when you're being pretend stupid and being for real stupid when that accounts for pretty much 100% of your posts. Thankfully there's no need for anybody to even worry about anything you have to say on any topic. Man, you are pretty much running every play in the internet douchebag playbook, aren't you? Still waiting on that answer.

Good pick. I agree, but worth half the draft? Really steep price. Are there cap implications there since they have to sign 3 first rounders? The rookie pool for a standard draft is around $6m in year one, and only abut half of that counts against the cap due to the top 51 rule. It could make a difference, but nothing too drastic.