Yeah, I don't know what people here are talking about? We've listened long enough to Theo interviews to know what he means, and how transparent and honest he is. He doesn't talk up a player to try to build up trade value... He genuinely regards Contreras as legit one of the most talented catchers in MLB. I've thought this for a while too that Contreras is one of the most tooled-up, athletic catchers with an MVP upside if he puts it all together and improves his receiving/framing. I'm not saying he couldn't be traded this offseason if the right deal comes along, but it really sounds like Theo wants to keep him and hopes he keeps improving. It should be noted Theo and this FO tried to sign him to an extension and failed. They want to keep him and I'm pretty sure they still want to extend him. I think it would be a mistake trading him. Here's my thesis, which is a combination of taking what Theo said at face value and reading between the lines: They know they aren't on the cutting edge when it comes to developing pitchers, and they know that Willson in particular is not very good at framing or particularly gifted at calling a game. Partially related: he's also had consistent trouble staying healthy. They've seen how their stuff like the pitch lab has paid some small dividends already(e.g. Wick, Ryan) and hiring a director of pitching should lead to more of that in the future. They admit that they've had a winner's curse of seeing the best in their positional core, and relied on youth taking a step forward that hasn't happened. I would hope that all of this can be universally agreed upon. My interpretation of those facts is that they see a huge potential for improvement across the pitching staff by improving catcher defense, and Contreras, who is likely to never be better defensively than he is now, has nagging injury concerns, and is easier to replace with a strong framer/game caller than trading a different asset, makes for a logical player to trade. He also makes sense in the fact that he should still have substantial trade value, and since the team doesn't have buckets of money to spend he offers the ability to get significant talent that is cost controlled in return. I don't think they're planning a one way offseason that involves Contreras being dealt, but I'm increasingly convinced that it's Plan A. That's fine and reasonable in logic, but just listening to Theo I don't think he was talking about trading him. He legitimately thinks highly of Contreras and was effusive in his praise. I think he believes Contreras can improve his framing/presentation with a better setup behind the plate that he is more comfortable with like he was saying. The injury concerns are true, and I worry about the hamstring issues he's had too. Still, he's really talented and his upside is right there with Bryant and Baez. Will he ever reach that considerable upside is debatable for sure. I think it'd be a mistake to trade him unless we got a really crazy package back (and modern FOs are very risk averse so those are becoming more rare). Honestly, I think it's more likely that Caratini gets traded this offseason.