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    uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so. how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not? you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible effort, willpower, desire, commitment. look those words up. they all actually mean something. And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster. If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself. courage! heart! passion! intensity!
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    i dont think you do now you're just being really obnoxious. ha, I'M being obnoxious? wow. umm yes. what was the point of the "will power, effort, blah blah" post? what did that provide? we already understand that you think pripr isn't healthy because of a lack off effort, and we've already explained to you why it's really stupid and you're just jumping to conclusions based on no evidence whatsoever. your most recent posts have no substance whatsoever. you're just being obnoxious. it's like a little kid. "2+2=5" "no it doesn't. her'es why" "5! 5! 5! 5! 5!" (effort, will power detemination) that's exactly what you're doing. your posts do nothing at this point. it's like you've given up and now you're just being a little kid. seriously though, you should just stop. there's no coming back from "a player can't be hurt for 5 years if he's committed".
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    i dont think you do now you're just being really obnoxious.
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    uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so. how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not? you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible effort, willpower, desire, commitment. look those words up. they all actually mean something. what is the point of this post? you're just babbling about nonsense now do you work? are you at work right now? have someone read my post to you, perhaps then it would make sense to you. or maybe try and read slower? otherwise i dont know what to tell you. sorry. stop with this garbage. i understand your post. i know what those words/phrases mean, and i know what your stance is. that post provided nothing but more filler/garbage because you still don't have a reasonable argument to back up yor claim. whatever.
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    uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so. how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not? you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible effort, willpower, desire, commitment. look those words up. they all actually mean something. what is the point of this post? you're just babbling about nonsense now
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    uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so. how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not? you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible
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    That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. And you think it's okay to make up a complete personality workup of the guy and accuse him of negative personality traits based on nothing but a one-sentence sketch of his background? make up? no. come to a conclusion based on what you know about a person? yeah. it's called jumping to a conclusion based on NO EVIDENCE whatsoever. i don't like the way you post. i think you're a rapist. did i make that up? no. i just came to a conclusion based on what i know about a person. you have a very, very bizarre mind. no, you just don't like it when i use valid comparisons that illustrate how flawed your logic is oh well, you're just here to talk baseball
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    That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. As someone who had some shared social circles with the guy when he was in Chicago, I can verify that there are quite a few people who have spent a lot of time with him who agree wholeheartedly with you. not surprising. not to me at least. you'll probably be asked for certified court testimony documenting this "evidence" though. it's [expletive] posts like this that make you look so bad "brian roberts cheats on his wife" "how do you know that?" "i don't need to provide any evidence. i've got a hunch"
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    That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. And you think it's okay to make up a complete personality workup of the guy and accuse him of negative personality traits based on nothing but a one-sentence sketch of his background? make up? no. come to a conclusion based on what you know about a person? yeah. it's called jumping to a conclusion based on NO EVIDENCE whatsoever. i don't like the way you post. i think you're a rapist. did i make that up? no. i just came to a conclusion based on what i know about a person.
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    That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. As someone who had some shared social circles with the guy when he was in Chicago, I can verify that there are quite a few people who have spent a lot of time with him who agree wholeheartedly with you. And that in no way means that he isn't giving it his all to get healthy when everything is taken away from you... your career...your life... your money... you do what you have to do to get it back. it's not like his daddy is suddenly going to buy him a new arm.
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    That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. you're spinning things around again. nobody is saying there isn't a chance that prior isn't the hardest worker. we're saying that it's stupid for you to say that it's the reason he hasn't gotten healthy, when there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER to back up that claim. when you make a baseless accusation about a guy, and then your only argument/evidence is "well, he just seems like a lazy guy to me"... then you should expect to get trashed. i mean, come on. you said that a guy can't stay injured for 5 years if he's fully committed. that was really bad.
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    Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. And your proof of this is? this isn't a court of law. i'm not out to prove anything. again, just having a discussion. clearly there is no proof. it's MY OPINION. we don't even need proof. we just need you to back up your claims with some kind of logic. you've provided no reason whatsoever as to why you think he didn't work hard enough. none. until you can let us know why you think that, i'm just going to assume that you don't like him and you're looking for ways to trash him. actually he was my favorite cub for a few years. surprised? i hated to see him go down. hated it. it's not like he didn't give me an autograph and now i hate him or something stupid like that. so then tell us why you think he wasn't/isn't commited to getting healthy. you still haven't answered that
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    Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. It doesn't appear to be that tough of a mind to blow. burn! really guy? Yes, really. You say something stupid, and then insult the people who call you on your stupidity, then act like your baseless reasoning in the only logical explanation, and really, it doesn't say much for your mental accuity. hey dude... he's just here to talk baseball. unless that means backing up baseless accusations. that doesnt count
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    "kyle orton is the best quarterback in the nfl" "why do you think that" "why? i don't need proof! it's my OPINION"
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    Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. And your proof of this is? this isn't a court of law. i'm not out to prove anything. again, just having a discussion. clearly there is no proof. it's MY OPINION. we don't even need proof. we just need you to back up your claims with some kind of logic. you've provided no reason whatsoever as to why you think he didn't work hard enough. none. until you can let us know why you think that, i'm just going to assume that you don't like him and you're looking for ways to trash him.
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    Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. do you have any basis for that argument whatsoever? what has made you question his effort? please inform us, and don't just say "he always seemed like a prima donna to me"
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    That is a really stupid thing to say. I mean incredibly ignorant. Pitchers can't commit themselves to not get hurt, or get back from injuries. hahaha, no it's not. you're essentially saying that effort in recovering from an injury means nothing. THAT's the stupid thing to say. you don't really believe that, now do you? umm. he's not the one that said it had nothing to do with it. YOU are the one that implied it was the ONLY thing that mattered, which is just dumb. we all understood what you meant and now you're trying to spin your way out of it because of how ridiculous it was. if that's what you inferred then you need to read slower. stop acting like we're misunderstanding you. we're not. you very clearly stated that if he had been committed he wouldn't have been injured for 5 years.
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    That is a really stupid thing to say. I mean incredibly ignorant. Pitchers can't commit themselves to not get hurt, or get back from injuries. hahaha, no it's not. you're essentially saying that effort in recovering from an injury means nothing. THAT's the stupid thing to say. you don't really believe that, now do you? What you seem to be ignoring is that Mark Prior didn't have a single injury that has persisted for five years. not ignoring that at all. so why, then, does he have so many injuries? just because? or is there perhaps a more logical reason? what are your thoughts, i'm curious. because he was mean to the media sometimes
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    That is a really stupid thing to say. I mean incredibly ignorant. Pitchers can't commit themselves to not get hurt, or get back from injuries. hahaha, no it's not. you're essentially saying that effort in recovering from an injury means nothing. THAT's the stupid thing to say. you don't really believe that, now do you? umm. he's not the one that said it had nothing to do with it. YOU are the one that implied it was the ONLY thing that mattered, which is just dumb. we all understood what you meant and now you're trying to spin your way out of it because of how ridiculous it was.
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    actually, it's been frequently suggested that determination and will to live (or whatever you want to refer to it as) are significant factors in fighting cancer. i'm not too fond of your comparison. determination can delay it/help fight it. it doesn't cure it.
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    In the case of pitching-related arm problems, never. You question his physical ability to get healthy, but there's no reason to question the commitment. really? no reason? why's that? do you think he's unaware of what's at stake? this is not his hobby. he's not just a fan. this is this guy's career. millions and million of dollars, not to mention fame and much more, are at stake right now. you really think he's not commited to that? give me a break. no, i don't. i think if he were actually committed he wouldn't have been hurt for the last FIVE YEARS. are you actually believing what you're saying? so any time a player is injured for 5 years, it's lack of commitment? it has nothing to do with the injuries? please make it stop read slower. i'm not saying it has nothing to do with injuries. suggesting so in and of itself is fundamentally ridiculous. of course the injuries are a factor. a two year old would know that. AT THE SAME TIME... i'm saying that his effort is a factor as well. that's all. make sense? no, i completely understood what you said. right there, you obviously imply that the injuries wouldn't have been a factor if had commitment to getting better. don't even try to spin that. the quote is right there
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    man, if only sandy koufax knew all he had to do was try harder
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    In the case of pitching-related arm problems, never. You question his physical ability to get healthy, but there's no reason to question the commitment. really? no reason? why's that? do you think he's unaware of what's at stake? this is not his hobby. he's not just a fan. this is this guy's career. millions and million of dollars, not to mention fame and much more, are at stake right now. you really think he's not commited to that? give me a break. no, i don't. i think if he were actually committed he wouldn't have been hurt for the last FIVE YEARS. are you actually believing what you're saying? so any time a player is injured for 5 years, it's lack of commitment? it has nothing to do with the injuries? please make it stop
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    what a stupid thing to say. umm no. i think we all understand who is saying the stupid things in this thread. i see. this must be the "group think" that i've been told by others is northsidebaseball's biggest downfall. if by "group think" you mean "a bunch of people with common sense", then yes.
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    In the case of pitching-related arm problems, never. You question his physical ability to get healthy, but there's no reason to question the commitment. really? no reason? why's that? do you think he's unaware of what's at stake? this is not his hobby. he's not just a fan. this is this guy's career. millions and million of dollars, not to mention fame and much more, are at stake right now. you really think he's not commited to that? give me a break.
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