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Assuming they get Ramirez, I really like the Dodgers as a possible best team in the NL. I don't know about that. They look pretty mediocre after losing Lowe and Saito. They'd have to have a lot of breakout years to be the best in the NL 87 pyth wins + full season of Ramirez - Lowe and Saito. From there, I think they do have a lot of guys poised to have breakout years. Their roster is full of guys in the 20-26 range, so I'd say it's a good bet one or two have breakout years. A full season of Manny, but not the .396/.489/.743 Manny they had last year
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Why? Do we even have the pieces to acquire him anymore? I thought the Padres wanted Olsen? So because we traded away one player that they wanted, he's no longer an option? If Hendry really wants him, then he wouldn't have traded OlsOn if it would have cost him the chance at Peavy later. Unless we hear something about the Cubs no longer being interested, you're overreacting. I doubt Olson was an integral part anyways.
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Why?
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Assuming they get Ramirez, I really like the Dodgers as a possible best team in the NL. I don't know about that. They look pretty mediocre after losing Lowe and Saito. They'd have to have a lot of breakout years to be the best in the NL
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I think you're underestimating the loss of production that we were going to have even if we kept the same team. If we kept the identical team from last year we still would have won fewer games. Couple that with the bad offseason and we're probably around 85-90.
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They didn't trade Pie and Cedeno for him though, they traded Olson and Cedeno. Just because we got a good deal for Pie doesn't mean it's okay to turn around with the got you got and make a below average deal
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Dumb play, mistake, flaw in judgment, like I said its all a matter of the adjective you want to use. I think the people that could best gauge his aptitude would be the people that he spent the most time with, mainly Lou, Hendry, other coaches, his teammates, beat writers, etc. Bruce is pretty reserved in his criticism of players, so I would tend to think that if Bruce was insinuating that Cedeno was viewed as not very bright, that would be closer to the truth than any of us posters on a message board. Where did I say anything about Cedeno and his intelligence or lack of? To try and insinuate that a player oversliding a base is somehow part of a mental flaw, I doubt that person has really spent much running the bases in a live game but if they don't overslide it while playing The show then it must not occur in real life. What is "The Show"? Oversliding a base, per se, is not generally a mental flaw. Not comprehending the situation in the game or understanding that the ball is live if you overslide, is a mental flaw. With Cedeno it wasn't just a one time thing. I don't know why you're acting like people are defending Cedeno's overrall career and baseball smarts. We're talking about one specific incident
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a great bet? i dont know how you define that, but i expect at least two other teams to be over .500. probably the cards and astros. maybe the brewers too. i don't see it. the cardinals might be, but only because they're the cardinals. their roster is very unimpressive. the brewers have lost their 2 aces and look to have a bad rotation, mediocre offense, and bad bullpen. i see them around .500, proably a bit under. i don't see how you like the astros being over .500, unless you're going by last year's record and not their actual team. they had a flukey run last year and some flukey production that they probably won't get again. their rotation looks really bad
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okay i just didn't understand the "stop arguing about everything" quote qhen i thought it was clear we were just messing around
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The woosh implied that the reason behind the choice of the picture went right over your head, which it did, considering you pretty much illustrated the exact reason I chose it in the next post you made. Stop arguing about everything. lol are you mad? because i wasn't. lighten up dude. if i'm arguing then so are you and yeah, i understood the reason for the picture. nothing went "woosh"
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80 wins? 80 wins, yet somehow get into the playoffs? Good chance 80 wins takes the central in 09 care to make a friendly wager on that? Not at even odds. There's not a team outside the Cubs that I'd project at 81 wins or better right now, but the odds are one of the other five will have a better than expected season. Exactly
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80 wins? 80 wins, yet somehow get into the playoffs? Good chance 80 wins takes the central in 09 care to make a friendly wager on that? No, because I never said I thought it would. I said there's a good chance. Who else besides the Cubs are a great bet to be over .500 this year?
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Dumb play, mistake, flaw in judgment, like I said its all a matter of the adjective you want to use. Be honest, you didn't really read his post, did you? Yeah it doesn't really seem like he knows what the argument was about
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80 wins? 80 wins, yet somehow get into the playoffs? Good chance 80 wins takes the central in 09 I think 80 wins is exremely pessimistic though.
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80 wins?
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Dumb play, mistake, flaw in judgment, like I said its all a matter of the adjective you want to use. I think the people that could best gauge his aptitude would be the people that he spent the most time with, mainly Lou, Hendry, other coaches, his teammates, beat writers, etc. Bruce is pretty reserved in his criticism of players, so I would tend to think that if Bruce was insinuating that Cedeno was viewed as not very bright, that would be closer to the truth than any of us posters on a message board. Who here is saying he's a smart player?
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It's certainly not young. When a team wants "young" talent, that means early to mid 20's
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the "wooosh" implied you were joking. do you think she's hot or not? that picture highlighted her snaggletooth... i was just saying you should have picked one that hid it
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Heilman isn't young
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Just unlucky
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he was hustling, lol? he was trying to steal, he should've been "hustling". that doesnt mean it wasnt an idiotic play. It's not an idiotic play. Suppose Molina airmails the ball and Ronny ends up scoring. Who made the idiotic play Molina or Cedeno? I mean Molina threw the ball down to second when he shouldn't have. it was a freakish play with a bad result. Please, stop the nonsense. so if it wasnt stupid, what was it? unlucky? A mistake? I mean, it's not like the only 2 adjectives you can use to describe a play are "idiotic" and "unlucky".
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wooooosh your post seemed pretty sincere and other than the snaggle tooth, she looked good in that picture
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is this is a competition of who made the most stupid plays? i think cedeno would blow the competition away if so. I think he was being sarcastic and saying that throwing errors don't mean a player is being dumb We are all arguing degree of deficiency here. Some say "idiotic", some say "dumb", some say "not the smartest"...... Its all a matter of the adjective that you want to use. And how many players in professional sports actually get thrown out sliding past second base on a walk? I'm guessing the odds of it happening during a ballgame are pretty astronomical. And then to admit that you didn't know there was a rule that you couldn't pass 2nd base? That is getting into Michael Barrett territory. In regard to Bruce, pointing out one of many "insert adjective for Cedeno's deficiency" mistakes over the course of his time with the Cubs isn't piling on. Piling on would be if he took the time to list multiple instances. I don't get the Barrett reference
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Jewel is kinda is/was hot, but damn dude you picked a horrible picture to make that argument with
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is this is a competition of who made the most stupid plays? i think cedeno would blow the competition away if so. I think he was being sarcastic and saying that throwing errors don't mean a player is being dumb