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shots you get fouled on don't count as field goal attempts unless you make them
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haha matt geiger
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You don't get fouled by guys playing under neath every screen or sagging off in isolation. You get fouled by guys you beat to a spot. Hard to beat a guy to a spot when he has a five foot head start. ok so then take a quick couple steps and pull up for a poorly contested mid-range shot. something he can actually do.
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or going back to his mid-range game... which was getting better and better
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it's okay to miss them as long as youre open we need to start utilizing noah from three more often. teams just GIVE him that wide open three constantly.
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how about rose pulling up and taking a 2 inside the line....something he was actually getting good at before he stopped doing it this season in favor of the 3. i mean, why do you think teams are giving him the 3? because he isn't making them.
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when you're missing the threes over and over and over, yes.... they are better options. your whole argument is that it's okay that he's taking shots that he's proven he can't hit consistently.... because the other options aren't good either. that's a weak argument to me. "yea, might as well keep taking threes that you won't make.... everyone else sucks anyways. championship!"
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now compare their field goal percentages. also, rose is taking more three's than any of those guys. Yeah, Kobe actually has running mates that can stay on the floor. Lebron has Wade and Bosh. When it was just Lebron in Cleveland he'd be jacking up 5+ threes a game consistently. wasn't any smarter then. also, he was shooting like 50% from the field when he was with cleveland despite the 3's. are you okay with rose taking 5 threes a game when the playoffs start?
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Oh, please, that's not what you're doing. You chime in after every bad shooting game saying he has no business even trying to shoot 3's, and are completely silent when he has a good game. not true at all. and btw, he goes like 8-21 almost every game now, sooooooo why do you keep making things up? i NEVER say anything like that. i mention is because im concerned about the playoffs when our star is shooting below 44%. again, people get ridiculously butt hurt when you say ANYTHING that issn't complimentary about rose. now suddenly i'm trashing rose and saying he's hurting the team? ok. awesome.
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Oh, please, that's not what you're doing. ohhhhhhhhhhhh
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i can't believe how pissy people get when you point out obvious weaknesses/concerns with rose. jesus.
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haha. you're right, the shot selection isn't the problem. he just isn't a three point shooter, yet he's taking them at a crazy rate. he's trying to force the three pointer to be part of his game. Well he has to do SOMETHING with the ball. He stops taking all these threes you're worried about and he's playing right into the teeth of the defense that is sagging off and playing the drive. The threes don't exist in a vacuum. preferably something that doesn't involve brick after brick Yes that would be nice. Or he could pass it to the bevy of ball handlers around him or his reliably healthy low post options. so you're okay with him continuing to do the one thing that is being proven every night to fail? i don't understand how you can justify taking a bunch of threes that you're likely to miss just because you're open.
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now compare their field goal percentages. also, rose is taking more three's than any of those guys.
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You're right, they'd never beat a decent team, especially on the road, with a shooting night like that. yes because winning one game in the regular season is exactly the same as beating a team 4 out of 7 times in the postseason great post You specifically asked if they could beat boston/miami/orlando with Rose going 8-21 or similar...and he and they did exactly that against both Orlando and Miami this year. i was obviously asking if they could beat them in a playoff series, not a single regular season game. and you say i'm being ignorant? or i'm concerned that the guy who will have to carry us in the postseason is now shooting below 44% if rose played for any other team, you guys would be saying the same stuff.
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haha. you're right, the shot selection isn't the problem. he just isn't a three point shooter, yet he's taking them at a crazy rate. he's trying to force the three pointer to be part of his game. Well he has to do SOMETHING with the ball. He stops taking all these threes you're worried about and he's playing right into the teeth of the defense that is sagging off and playing the drive. The threes don't exist in a vacuum. preferably something that doesn't involve brick after brick
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I literally haven't seen him force it at all. Seriously, any #1 perimeter scorer worth his salt takes those shots. All of them. you aren't even making sense. first of all, i never said he's forcing up the shots. he's getting good looks, he's not making them. why? because rose isn't a three point shooter. he's NOT a perimeter scorer.
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You're right, they'd never beat a decent team, especially on the road, with a shooting night like that. yes because winning one game in the regular season is exactly the same as beating a team 4 out of 7 times in the postseason great post
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haha. you're right, the shot selection isn't the problem. he just isn't a three point shooter, yet he's taking them at a crazy rate. he's trying to force the three pointer to be part of his game.
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i don't read hollinger and you don't "need" to take the open 3 if you are kissing them over and over and over. rose shot well from three for like.... 2 months? he sucked his first 2 years, and he sucks this year. i think he's forcing it to be part of his game even though it's hurting him.
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i don't believe you can win a championship with your playmaker/star player shooting below 44% that's what i'm worried about. same with the 3's. i'm worried he's going to be jacking up 5 3's a game in the playoffs even though he sucks at them. you guys think we can beat boston/miami/orlando with rose going 8-21 or something like that? i don't
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how many teams in nhl history have finished with a top 5 goal differential and missed the playoffs? are we going to be the first?
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his fg% dropped below 44% tonight (now .438) i'm officially worried, even though everyone seems to want to pretend that he hasn't been horribly inefficient for a while now. also, 0-5 from 3 again.
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how about 40 games. is that a big enough sample size for you? last 40 games- 4.92 attempts per game 29.4 percent so for the last 40 games, he's making 3's at a horrible rate, yet he's taking them as much as almost anybody. you don't see a problem with that? i don't get why you can't mention this about rose, even though it's obviously something that is bringing his game down. i'm not talking [expletive] about rose, i'm pointing out an obvious flaw. he's taking 5 three's a game and he hasn't shown in his nba career so far that he can make them. so why is everyone so defensive when i bring it up?
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small sample size. take out that monster first quarter against the jazz and those numbers look a lot different. in january he took 5.1 three's a game at only 25% in march so far he's taking 6.6 a game at 28.3% not trashing him, just saying. he's taking a ridiculous amount of 3's right now for a guy who isn't making them. it's hurting his game, plain and simple. he's be better if he stopped taking so many.