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This is what they mean by processing time. He sees St. Brown and if he pulls the trigger right away he's got 6. But he delays for a second and in that time it seems like the CB has recovered to close some of the gap and ultimately he doesn't think its a safe throw because if its underthrown its an INT. At least that's how I see it as a complete amateur film watcher. And I think to some degree most young passers have this issue. But certainly over 28 attempts over 2 games (even if we add in all the pass plays that ended in a run/sack) , he isn't getting tons of live reps. I saw an inevitable comparison to Trubiskys first 12 games, which was his full rookie year. He threw 330 passes to Justin's 283? I know Fields had some not full games in this first 12, but Trubisky in a ultra conservative Fox environment gets of 17% more passes than Fields. That's just not good (whether there's excuses/context for some of it). As I go through other young unrefined passers of recent memory, they all way outpace those marks. Even if I travel back in time to a much less pass happy NFL in 2001, Tom Brady threw 330 passes in his first 12 starts, and Bellicheck was not throwing him to the wolves and trying to win behind him that first year. So even if Fields is missing 2-3 opportunities on his own each game, the raw numbers are low. And if youre scheme is razor thin enough that 2-3 missed opportunities throws the whole gameplan... That seems bad.

Re: the pass v run blocking, it would be interesting to just go count the box again on all those big runs in the second half. Down two scores, it may have been as much about the Packers D as it was blocking (plus some good broken tackles by DM to DBs)

Kmet was the 1st TE taken that year, but I think was always thought of as being a second tier TE in a good TE draft year (does that make sense?). That being said, he doesnt seem to be improving, at all. Its concerning. Yea, even at the time he was not viewed as a premier prospect. But either way draft positioning stops mattering the day they sign the first contract. His only excuse is youth as he's still quite young, but when you're dropping easy passes when your team is trying to rally... Youth doesn't seem like an excuse. Not asking him to fool defenders with vet wisdom in those situations.

Yea he's gotta learn from experience, but an extra legit pass catcher could certainly help smooth that curve a little, one would think. And I actually like Mooney quite a bit. But he's all there is really. I think I saw something about Pringle having good separation stats, but I'm thinking that may be more a product of being a tertiary option than his ability to create space. Also I'm pretty much done on Kmet. He's a decent number 2 and blocker, but damn he just doesn't make a difference on an O as a target. JAG. Some fans were hyping him way too hard.

The last time.l we clearly see a ball and not dark splotches, he is carrying it in this left hand. Lol Justin must have telekinesis and transferred to his right hand when we lose sight of the ball behind the blocker. you're misreading that. he's carrying it with his left and covering it with his right hand. he has both hands on the ball. But hell, look at his helmet, its broke the plane and even in that image the ball is further forward then his helmet His helmet placement is irrelevant. And that's not how he'd have been carrying the ball. He already had the point secured in his left hand. He wasn't transferring the point of the ball there. He projected the ball by keeping it close to his arm/chest which at that point are now roughly parallel, not perpendicular to the goalline.

Yea. Some blame lays on a combo of Fields and the protection and coverage, not just a straight counting of pass/run.

The last time.l we clearly see a ball and not dark splotches, he is carrying it in this left hand. Lol Justin must have telekinesis and transferred to his right hand when we lose sight of the ball behind the defender.

That's only clear if you're high. It's literally unclear. It's a mess to decipher. I'm really confused on why you want this to not be a TD so badly, but let me make it crystal horsefeathering clear to you. I want Bears fans to not embarrass themselves and cry ref on a too close to call challenge after a godawful play all on a night they were clearly overmatched. Even if replay didn't have the whole irrefutable proof to overturn burden that play is just soo damn close, it'd be more of a best guess scenario with limited facts (after considering how to apply a single camera angle on a question of a 3D plane issue). But it was maybe a TD.

That’s not how replay works. Come on, there's a small dark pixelated blotch though.

There's a dark area that's probably some combo of hand, the ball, or just a shadow. :dontknow: You can basically say definitely from that image that part of his wrist broke the plane, but that doesn't mean the ball did, since the ball was being held towards his body and he's roughly parallel to the plane at that point. It's pretty clear where Justin Fields ends and the ball begins in this image. The ball passed the plane. That's only clear if you're high. It's literally unclear. It's a mess to decipher.

No that's the best image and we can't see the ball because it's behind his left arm. [attachment=0]td.jpg[/attachment] There's a dark area that's probably some combo of hand, the ball, or just a shadow. :dontknow: You can basically say definitely from that image that part of his wrist broke the plane, but that doesn't mean the ball did, since the ball was being held towards his body and he's roughly parallel to the plane at that point.

I agree, I didn't understand why Bears fans were flipping out over that call. It may have slightly crossed over, but no way they are changing the call with the reviews we saw IMO. Bears fans should focus their ire on lining up in shotgun for a 1 inch sneak. "Slightly crossed over" is a TD That image from barstool is hardly the best look. Finding a better image is fruitless at this point, but it broke the plane No that's the best image and we can't see the ball because it's behind his left arm.

And then a segment of Bears Twitter then went into a predictable tailspin about refs highlighting any missed hold or false start they could find. I thought the refs called a decent game except for the flag they inexplicitly picked up on a clear hold, with little explanation. But that had zero impact since it was a sack anyways.

I agree, I didn't understand why Bears fans were flipping out over that call. It may have slightly crossed over, but no way they are changing the call with the reviews we saw IMO. Bears fans should focus their ire on lining up in shotgun for a 1 inch sneak. I think maybe people are confused thinking the ball was in his right hand which looks kind of like fingers clasped around the point of a ball. Really from that view Fields left hand would have to be like paper thin for the ball to have crossed. The front of his hand/forearm crossing isn't enough.

I think the no call was a good one. Just went back and watched it. This circled area is just an empty area. The ball was in his left arm, and you can't see the ball from beind his left arm there. He's holding the ball close to his body behind the left arm there, not outward from his body. A little bit of his left arm looks like it's across the goalie, but the ball needs to be. Maybe it did but certainly can't confirm it from that still.

Objectively, you're blind I'm not convinced.

Am I blind or are Bears fans all just homerimg hard because I don't see the actual ball on the replay there.

What in the actual hell.

Pretty much everyone on the offense is there for their running game contributions. Yep. This has been the clear direction since like March.

A big break. Let's see how they do nothing with it

NY already doesn't look as easy of an opponent. But on a different positive note, once Fields get an extra weapon in Smith-Njigba, maybe the offense will open up a bit.

SF isn't that good, at least not with Lance at QB.

I retract this statement.

Gordon is getting picked on.

I like this team.