Yep, as long as the offense was good you could ignore his other faults. But when his area of expertise is what's leading to the losses, it is a problem. Yep, that's what I've been saying for a few weeks. If this team isn't scoring 28 ppg like it was last year, what's Trestman's value to this team? He's not a motivator like Rex Ryan. He's not a disciplinarian like Coughlin or someone. He's not a player's coach like Lovie was. He's not strong in-game or as a leader like a Belichick. His value is in getting this offense to score points and win games. They averaged 7 points per quarter last year, they've been held to 7 or fewer points in a half in 5 of the 7 games this year. It's going to be interesting to see what happens if this year continues like this. I've been thinking about it since yesterday, and you kinda have to fire Trestman don't you? The offense is all under contract for next year. You can't blame it on Cutler and toss him aside (which is why I would have just franchised him). You aren't going to be able to trade Marshall, who looks like he might be a problem if this team doesn't do anything significant on the field. All you can do is blame Tucker and retool the defense again. And if they keep playing average-ish, I don't think there's enough you can possibly do on that side of the ball to combat the fact that the offense isn't as advertised. Honestly I think all those traits of other coaches you listed other than Bellicheck are rather small factors. If Trestman had one of those traits, it'd still be a distant factor to the offense not producing. That's the most important thing. The defense is already improved enough to be acceptable. I have a hard time believing the O is as bad as it has been, but it also can't be just above average either, it's gotta be top 5 type. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk