They are going to suck but already at 4 wins they probably will win 1 to 3 more games, they have the Browns, Bears, Vikings, Lions x2, Bucs and Ravens left on the schedule. There’s a win or 2 in there and that’s enough to keep them closer to pick 10/12 than top 5 probably. that roster sans rodgers is mostly a dumpster fire but the browns are pretty damn bad, i guess. also, in response to wrigley, even tho i was mostly making a joke with that post, rodgers will about a year younger on draft day than favre was when they drafted him, fwiw. Two years younger think. As to the other part, they are probably still good enough to back into at least two more wins.