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The other Lafleur hasn't proven a lot but he did get like 900 yards in 2 games out of whoever that nobody was who came in when Zach Wilson was injured. That alone is more than Nagy ever did. Literally can't remember his name he's such a nothingburger. Edit - it was actually Mike White the first game and Josh Johnson the second game and was 800 passing yards against two decent opponents, Cincy and Indy. Jets were 22nd ranked offense dvoa, with crap QB play. Bears Offense dvoa ranked was 26th.

With GM in hand its another great day to mock a rival.

injuries Just keep the periods short. You basically turn OT into a 2 minute drill shootout where managing the clock is still a strategic factor and avoid the possibility gassed Ds allow two elite Offenses to trade scores into perpetuity. Maybe as little as like 3:30 continuations. You can carry over up to 2 timeouts, and are given one new timeout at each even number OT period, up to 2 max? Clock stops at 1:00 instead of 2:00? Or no auto clock stoppage. (no TV commercial break!) Keeps managing the clock a factor. To the credit of KC, they scored a FG with just 13 seconds at end of reg and there were multiple sub 1 minute drives by both teams! Teams have to balance managing clock and not giving their opponent time to respond. But if KC scores in 2:30, BUF still has an opportunity to respond with a minute left. That's exciting football! It doesn't guarantee a possession response and doesn't have a random coin flip determine any possession edge in sudden death. It keeps the periods long enough to possibly leave a response but short enough a skilled team can milk it. Also short enough to consider player health/fatigue and not have super long extra periods. At some point the timing of the clock plays something of a luck factor, but it's not luck that is untethered from skill and strategic inputs. I don't know what the right numbers are as far as the length of time. I know KC took longer than that, but if you keep the period short enough they know they need to hurry up a little at least. Presents really interesting strategic decisions on each side. It's basically a constant 2 minute drill OT. Perfect. Need a minor league system to test wacky ideas like that though.

the bears have a rooster? George runs a underground [expletive] fighting ring and the HH upgrades were actually part of a massive money laundering cover.

Same guy lol Between the GB choke job and beating Vikes to Poles, there's big "winning the offseason" vibes for the Bears :lol: I know it means nothing, but fun for now after slogging through a Nagy lame duck season.

The way I read it was that the search team had those three coaches, but Poles insisted on being able to hire who he wants, presumably including others not in the final 3 three. If correct, then Daboll, Flores, whoever may be in play. It would be interesting to see if Poles wants Flores, for example. Does George just say OK or does he want to push back and say I didn't like him? So in my scenario, maybe the Bears said, yes, hire who you want (even someone we didn't like - this is the questionable part), but please start with our three finalists before expanding the grouping. I think it's a little more like: we already had these guys scheduled because they were tops for us and you so you're first few interviews are scheduled. You can take the rest from here though. If he wants to bring back Flores or someone totally new I think he'll be able to.

My understanding is these guys were mutual to Poles initial list as well. But he may have others. But Quinn sounds like it really may happen

Yes college should change their awful OT.

So it's your position that a 6.6% difference in who wins an NFL overtime game with a sample size of 65 games or whatever it is is entirely due to the coin toss? That's your take? How about the 10-1 advantage in the coin toss winner in the playoffs? Small sample, but it would be interesting to see regular season results of eventual playoff teams as an approximation of a larger "playoff" sample.

So who picked up Eberflus from the airport tonight?

I'm bringing this back up since you referenced it a second time. It may be technically true that the coin toss winner team wins exactly half the time if you take out the playoff numbers and include the ties as "non-wins", but it's pretty misleading. Because if you do exactly the same for the non-coin toss winner teams, the non-coin toss winner teams only win 43.4% of the time even when taking out the playoff numbers (with the other 6.7% being those ties). That's still a pretty healthy advantage for the coin toss winner. I don't consider 50-43.4 a statistically significant difference. There are a million potential reasons for that. If the end goal is an OT that produces an exact 50/50 split, good luck. Your best chance for that is probably literally deciding it with a coin toss. I mean I guess the really intersting approach would be to also look at the point spread or dvoa ranking and seeing if there was any correlation where the stronger team was still tending to win independent of coin flip odds.

I had to go relook up the new GM was again, honestly. Care to share what you found? Uuhhh I forgot again. I think Pledge Carson?

My interpretation is George has been 100% honest and transparent about this stuff. I really don't think a hot candidate would agree to a GM job if it came with the caveat that he had to hire an elder statesmen as HC. I think it's entirely possible that Poles likes Caldwell, and don't believe George is forcing him, or any other coach, on him. Yeah, especially when it sounds like he had the Vikings job on the table as well. Would have just gone where he wasn't forced on a HC, unless he really hates Kirk Cousins.....which who would blame him? Eh, even if he really hated Cousins, I don't think anyone believes that GM is gonna be beholden to him. Probably could be moved in a trade and Minny would accept a rebuild I think. So yea I think Chicago had to be competitive with their offer and not just rely on Fields v Cousins.

Indeed, this is the one George McCaskey has to get correct, if so, everything else falls in place and the Bears will turn it around. I underestimated George. I guess picking Ryan up at the airport helped seal the deal? I think it was the shoes.

I'll take all the fluff I can get but I'm pretty sure I was reading the same stuff about Pace after he was hired I don't know if I ever recalled any analytic fluff from Pace.

Its a compromise at least. Only downside I guess it a home team with a tie may go real conservative at the end knowing they will get the ball back with plenty of time. But for that trade off we get sudden death excitement. I'd still say give home team the choice either way. I really wanna see some coach give up first possession in OT because they got cute and lose lol

I like.

Thread Brad is a analytics guy, so if he's impressed with Poles I think theres hope in that dept.

*It's happening gif*

Yeah, all 1st round interviews were via Zoom. 2nd round in person. Is Poles the first round 2? IDK if Eberflus went his 2nd time or not, or if they are waiting to do in person until they get a GM. judging by his attire, no way Geo uses Zoom...hes a straight up WebEx kind of guy But he calls it FaceTime.

I think this is fun, but the NFL places so much ceremonial importance on the coin toss, they would probably refuse to do away with it. Good idea though if they could get past it. We can do the coin toss for direction I guess. And move every stadium into a dome and make Jerry Jones put up curtains so direction is pointless.

Guys it's just cuz George wants to deduct the miles for business travel. He swooped by and picked up groceries on the way and the IRS will never know he mixed personal travel with business travel. (joking)

If suddent death is an absolute given (or the current variation of sudden death) : My final compromise request would be to just follow the lead from XFL and do away with the coin toss altogether. Beginning of game included. Home team chooses to receive or defer, and the KO swaps at halftime and at each OT period. As home team in the playoffs, you've earned the right to go for a strategic edge. You can play for the opportunity to get the extra second half possession by deferring, which is what most teams do today, or play for OT. The benefit to deferring is to attempt to gain the possession edge in the 2nd half. But if you do that you'll give up the ball in OT. Or take the ball first and guarantee that in an OT scenario you'll get first ball. The 17 game record replaces 50/50 luck and there is still some strategic choice involved. We kill a silly ritual of a coin toss altogether. I imagine most home teams chose ball first, but who knows. I also wouldn't mind a 2pt conversion requirement to end it on the first drive.

Wow really?!? That's so crazy, could have sworn that was the rule. Honestly though, there's no need to even have a coin toss. What purpose does it serve? Why not just continue play? It seems utterly pointless to reset play and then go Sudden death. Why? Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. Not a bad idea IMO. I should add, continuation is really only ideal if you're willing to play a full timed period. If you want to do sudden death still, well anything is kind of junky. Sudden death is just a lot more fun in a more low scoring and free flowing possession game like hockey or soccer.