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I'll take all the fluff I can get but I'm pretty sure I was reading the same stuff about Pace after he was hired I don't know if I ever recalled any analytic fluff from Pace.
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Its a compromise at least. Only downside I guess it a home team with a tie may go real conservative at the end knowing they will get the ball back with plenty of time. But for that trade off we get sudden death excitement. I'd still say give home team the choice either way. I really wanna see some coach give up first possession in OT because they got cute and lose lol
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I like.
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Thread Brad is a analytics guy, so if he's impressed with Poles I think theres hope in that dept.
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*It's happening gif*
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Yeah, all 1st round interviews were via Zoom. 2nd round in person. Is Poles the first round 2? IDK if Eberflus went his 2nd time or not, or if they are waiting to do in person until they get a GM. judging by his attire, no way Geo uses Zoom...hes a straight up WebEx kind of guy But he calls it FaceTime.
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I think this is fun, but the NFL places so much ceremonial importance on the coin toss, they would probably refuse to do away with it. Good idea though if they could get past it. We can do the coin toss for direction I guess. And move every stadium into a dome and make Jerry Jones put up curtains so direction is pointless.
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Guys it's just cuz George wants to deduct the miles for business travel. He swooped by and picked up groceries on the way and the IRS will never know he mixed personal travel with business travel. (joking)
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If suddent death is an absolute given (or the current variation of sudden death) : My final compromise request would be to just follow the lead from XFL and do away with the coin toss altogether. Beginning of game included. Home team chooses to receive or defer, and the KO swaps at halftime and at each OT period. As home team in the playoffs, you've earned the right to go for a strategic edge. You can play for the opportunity to get the extra second half possession by deferring, which is what most teams do today, or play for OT. The benefit to deferring is to attempt to gain the possession edge in the 2nd half. But if you do that you'll give up the ball in OT. Or take the ball first and guarantee that in an OT scenario you'll get first ball. The 17 game record replaces 50/50 luck and there is still some strategic choice involved. We kill a silly ritual of a coin toss altogether. I imagine most home teams chose ball first, but who knows. I also wouldn't mind a 2pt conversion requirement to end it on the first drive.
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Wow really?!? That's so crazy, could have sworn that was the rule. Honestly though, there's no need to even have a coin toss. What purpose does it serve? Why not just continue play? It seems utterly pointless to reset play and then go Sudden death. Why? Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. Not a bad idea IMO. I should add, continuation is really only ideal if you're willing to play a full timed period. If you want to do sudden death still, well anything is kind of junky. Sudden death is just a lot more fun in a more low scoring and free flowing possession game like hockey or soccer.
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I had to go relook up the new GM was again, honestly.
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Wow really?!? That's so crazy, could have sworn that was the rule. Honestly though, there's no need to even have a coin toss. What purpose does it serve? Why not just continue play? It seems utterly pointless to reset play and then go Sudden death. Why?
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Another gimmick idea. But saw someone suggest a spin on the blind bid for field position: Instead of chosing the starting yard line, chose that starting distance. So Reid would chose say 18. So it would be 1 and 18 and Bills can elect to start with ball or defer (from whatever fixed yard line, say own 25). True sudden death from there. I normally hate OT gimmicks but anything is better than a coin toss and all these prisoner dilemma gimmicks at least will create hours of Monday morning QB second guessing :lol:
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Lol George
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Also Minn is supposedly high on Poles and Denver on Quinn. If they landed a Poles/Quinn pairing that would be very nice that they landed guys away from those spots, IMO.
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Tons of people saying Quinn would be expected to bring in a killer staff :dontknow: If he can bring in a great staff I'm open to it. Hopefully he's learned from ATL (which sound weird since he made a SB and all, but his run didn't end well there)
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What about Denver?
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Seems like a bad process tbh probably, but at this point who cares Hopefully Soup, Tanesha, Bill, Ted, and George.
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Based on current names I agree. Ireland was a big one I didn't want but haven't heard much there. Part of that is its too hard to judge GMs. All first timers, but all seem reasonable so let's roll the damn dice. at this point my process would go do you like justin fields? yes - cool. no - eliminated will you hire Daboll? yes - cool. no eliminated should get there pretty quickly Seems like a bad process tbh
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Based on current names I agree. Ireland was a big one I didn't want but haven't heard much there. Part of that is its too hard to judge GMs. All first timers, but all seem reasonable so let's roll the damn dice.
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And a PFF Brad rumor with DBB confirmation for Ossenfort and Wolf:
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Buried in a reply, but DBB says Rick Smith is not in consideration. He was "my guy" but I'll wait and see at this stage. Certainly wasn't the only compelling choice.
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why would a team ever NOT take the ball, regardless of where it is spotted. I can't think of any scenarios. I could see it if the other team picks the 1 yard line. Even for an elite offense like the Chiefs it can be hard to get out of your own end zone and if they can't get a 1st, suddenly the other team gets great field position. Also its not sudden death so it helps the team that gets the ball 2nd unless the other team goes on a 99 yard drive that eats up the entire 7:30 I thought the Ravens proposal was still sudden death? Also a similar prisoners dilemma sudden death proposed here (along with the Ravens one) https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/three-best-ways-to-fix-nfl-overtime-after-chiefs-wild-playoff-win-over-bills-brings-ot-rules-under-scrutiny/ I don't love these kind of gimmicks, but better than a coin toss. Would still much prefer a "continuation" or "two halves" solution with no sudden death (unless it's a 2 score mercy rule). Also my most controversial take is to end regular season ties at regulation.
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why would a team ever NOT take the ball, regardless of where it is spotted. I can't think of any scenarios. I don't know a ton about the specific expected value from various drive starting points, but I would guess that there's a point where the expected points from each team's first drive tip in the favor of the team without the ball to start because of field position. And with the time it takes for 2 drives you'd be signing up to likely be ahead with only a couple minutes left at most. The prisoner's dilemma of one team picking spot and the other team picking ball would keep that advantage from being too extreme though, if you pick the 1 your opponent is gonna stick you there, but if you pick the 10? The 15? Probably closer to a coin flip(again, with the caveat that I know nothing about football probabilities) Yea, this sounds right. Probably would end up being highly opponent dependent, but if I'm facing Mahomes or Allen I'm probably chosing the 1 yard line and fully expecting them to take the ball. But we'd have zero data the first year. It would be great to have decisions with no conventional wisdom to back up the choice.
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What context are you hearing it in? The question was about Payton's future with NO. The speculation is him possibly retiring and the Saints have no reason to let him out of his contract to join another team unless he forced his way out but as has been discussed on the internet, Payton will probably be linked to Chicago if he leaves NO I know its gasping at straws but this GM/coaching search is boring me right now. There's also speculation he would have big broadcast offers waiting for him. Wouldn't be the first guy to retire from coaching relatively young and leave the grind behind while he's still young enough to enjoy his millions and make comparable (or more?) money talking football 17 times a year for 3 hours.
