David

i literally thought the exact same thing. i'm dying.

oh this is a great start

hey guys we just had a really shitty stretch and got swept by the second place team at home and we're still 10 up lmao

bases aren't supposed to move

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i know exactly what i'm going to do if we don't win this game after CT didn't let that beantown guy start this thread...

bryant looked a little annoyed at him lol

i vote beantowncubfan should get to continue starting :flythew: CUBS WIN

first strike he throws and it's called a ball lol

lol should have walked but it's 2-2

if joe were really perfect he'd have brought rondon in there and someone else to get the final outs if it got to be too many pitches for him or whatever.

grandpa rossy forgot rizzo isn't over there

Uh, pretty much the same place. He's only started 3 other games, all losses. And his PH HR was in a 10-5 win. lol seriously such a weird post

WILLSONNNNN

if that washington report re: noah is true, it's kinda funny since that's the team whose front court completely dominated him that year he won DPOY

nice javy

you guys know i'm not the hockey guy...i'm confused. thought teuvo being traded was to let them keep shaw...that's what everyone said. wtf?

do they really blast that horsefeathering horn in the middle of a pitch? how is that allowed?

that's horsefeathering hysterical

Wait that has to be only 4 years right? So basically the max? I was expecting a lot of 10m backups and 20m starters, but if non superstars start making 30m... yea we can add one starter in FA, and that's it. yeah..here's the report. it seems way too insane to believe, though. http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-free-agency-washington-wizards-joakim-noah-chicago-bulls-knicks-derrick-rose-bucks-timberwolves/1g5h2xcr8ello1ct5ne29gn4m5?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

so if the wizards really are offering joakim $120M, how good do we feel about lopez right now?

as much as i wanted to believe that at the time and shortly thereafter, i don't anymore.

Not as disagreeable now that you spell it out like that. And my point isn't that we should tank, my point is that it is unlikely that we become a legit contender without a star that is better than Jimmy Butler. Now if the Bulls had a lot of intriguing assets that could either develop into an attractive team, or be used as trade bait for either a star or lottery picks, then yes I am completely fine with not blowing the whole team up. But this team is Jimmy Butler and a cast of mediocre role players basically. We are not going to improve our long term outlook by drafting high floor, low ceiling guys like McDermott and Valentine. We are not going to improve our long term outlook by trading Rose for a packaged headlined by Joakim Noah lite (I know Rose's trade value wasn't high and they did get a potential high ceiling low floor guy in Grant, but I'd rather have the cap space than a 3 year commitment to Lopez at 14 per). These are marginal assets for future transactions. So if we are a 50 win team with no hope of the title, that's fine if we are building toward something or accumulating assets, much like the 05-09 Bulls or the last 2 Celtics teams. But every move I've seen the Bulls make lately has been designed to keep the Bulls in that 42-47 win range without much long term upside and no asset accumulation. So yes I would prefer to blow it up and bottom out for what hopes to be a year or two than watch a team led by Jimmy, Taj and Robin Lopez struggle to make the playoffs. I understand the risk that it will make the team unwatchable and I understand 1-2 years could turn into 5-7 years, but at this point I am having a hard time finding other ways to compete long term. depends what you call a legit contender. a fake legit contender like the 2010-11 bulls, or an actual legit contender like whatever team has lebron and the warriors? i realize it's convenient to pick the two teams that were just in the finals but lebron is literally in them every year and very few would've predicted anyone to beat the warriors this year (at least before curry started looking vulnerable).

especially with the lotto. like i said, if there were a lebron type prospect in the 2017 draft, i'd blow it up and tell hoiberg he's fired if they win a game. and even then we'd have to make it through the lottery, but i'd do it.

imagine how the course of everything and our whole bulls narrative would have changed if that secret kobe free agency mission in 04 that (according to kobe) almost worked had worked. or even the 2007 trade effort. that's probably the closest we came to nabbing a superstar, depending on how real you think the initial lebron stuff was and how long the miami thing was truly realistically in the works.