yeah...i think TT has mentioned before that he's a "name on the front" guy and would eventually be ok with it. i'm kinda in the same boat. he's probably (almost certainly?) a huge scumbag but he's also really [expletive] good and should come relatively cheap. before i didn't want him, but being able to replace our worst bullpen arm with him would be a noticeable upgrade (and i'm saying this on the assumption that he won't cost us anything we'll be too bummed over). You'd be bummed about Torres, right? I do think it's going to take that. If not any of Happ, Torres, Eloy then get it done. I'll deal with my dirty feelings. I wouldn't be all that bummed about Torres but I don't know if it will take that. I'm not huge on Torres, both because of what he profiles as and our need. I see him purely as trade ammo. I'd hope/think his standing could get us more than a rental reliever (a really damn good one but also with huge baggage), but maybe he can't. If they can deal him as the centerpiece of a package for one of those starters with team control they're looking for, that'd be great. I just really have no idea how the market values him.