Yeah, that's kind of my point. Pace tried to field an 8 or 9 win team while building for more and failed miserably. And remember, his resume is built on pro scouting (free agency), not college scouting and drafts. horsefeathers, you're talking me into wanting him gone now. I mean, drafting hasn't exactly been a weak point so far. One very good draft and one ehh one before he got his own guys on staff.