Anyone extracting a serious argument from what's said in the game thread probably shouldn't stay in the game thread. Marquis was really bad in the first. After that he stopped giving up runs, but he walked a guy an inning for the remainder of his start. He had a bad outing. I left after Guzman's first inning and didn't even "see" that, so can someone tell me how his stuff was, the type of contact he was giving up, etc?