Transmogrified Tiger
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Regardless of whether or not he saw the signal he was called out by the umpire. If the Angels actually heard "You're out" then they have a 100% legit beef. If they assumed they heard it then we have a problem. I'm curious on what Paul heard. Why is it necessary to have the visual and audible confirmation? Paul's the only one within 60 feet, and the infield's all about 100+ feet away. With the noise level of the crowd, you can't expect the fielders to hear something the umpire says through a mask. Again I'll say it, if Eddings doesn't signal AJP out, then Escobar would've gotten to the ball and thrown him out by 5 steps.
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Doesn't an ump yell you're out? Like was brought up earlier, the customary thing on a swing and miss for strike three is to assume that the person is out, but if the umpire yells that the ball hit the ground, then it's to be played out.
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In all the games you played when you could run on a 3rd strike what did the ump do? He usually pumps that arm for the 3rd strike but often doesn't call it an out until the play is over. Look at tapes of umps when this happens...look at the earlier AB when it happened. This is exactly the point Cuse. In the very same game(might have even been the previous hitter), Eddings waited until after the tag/throw to first to pump his fist to make the out call. This time he did it right there, so what are the players supposed to think?
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I keep hearing this, and don't necessarily disagree, but where are the situations where he doesn't always react well? The guy has had like 3 innings of poor performance in the playoffs, and people are blowing it up to outlandish proportions. I've posted and reposted that in pressure situations during the regular season he's no different than when the game isn't on the line. His other 6 playoff outings are outstanding(7.1 IP, 1 ER, 3 H, 0 BB, 8 K's). There's no basis for the argument aside from the unreasonably bitter diatribes against Farnsworth.
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Also, it doesn't really matter if Paul threw the ball to the mound too early or not. Don't you think if there was no out signal made that Escobar would've gone over to the ball and thrown him out? He would've had him easy, BUT THE UMP SIGNALED OUT, so the inning should be over.
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So if an OF thinks he caught a ball cleanly that was boarderline close to the ground he should roll the ball in? If the second base umpire makes a fist, one would think he would be safe to.
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I don't think there was any doubt in the minds of the Angels players. Exactly. Like I said before, when you see a guy extend his arm to the side, then make a separate motion of a fist, I don't know what else you are supposed to think if you are a fielder.
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Do you know what the slugging pct. of that .210 is? I don't know where IMB! got .210 from, opponents hit .180 off Farnsworth this year. Their SLG against him was a robust .275, for a less than .100 IsoP. That's fantastic.
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Couldn't a change of direction happened just from bouncing inside the glove? Also I really don't get it, isn't that all irrelevant since he was signaled out. I thought that superseded anything else, the fact that he was called out. Exactly, it DOESN'T MATTER whether or not the ball hit the ground. The controversy is that Eddings called him out. Reynolds said it best that the arm raise indicated no contact, and the fist called him out. For the Angels fielders to think anything different upon seeing that is ridiculous.
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Wasn't that the question where Eddings didn't say anything, and there was silence for a second before the Umpires superintendent jumped in with some nonsense?
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If anyone can find a link to video, I'd appreciate it.
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That's what he's saying on the press conference. He clearly lifts his arm sideways in one motion, then makes another motion to make a fist. To me, it looked like a "strike" then "out" motion.
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Okay, this would kinda be unprecedented, but could they overturn the call at this point? The nature and time of the call(ending the inning) make me think that it wouldn't be unfair to do so. Especially when it's something as cut and dry as "The umpire made the 'out' sign, that means he's out".
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ALCS: White Sox Defeat Angels 4-1
Transmogrified Tiger replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
Haha, what a sham. Isn't it a rule that Pierszynski can't run after he makes a move towards the dugout? Or is that a different league I'm thinking of? -
ALCS: White Sox Defeat Angels 4-1
Transmogrified Tiger replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
Haha, Ozzie you moron, Konerko is the only player on your team that can hit, and you try and steal with Dye to get him into scoring position. Let him hit a double instead of trying to be hands on. Or Konerko could K, making everything else futile. I like that best. -
ALCS: White Sox Defeat Angels 4-1
Transmogrified Tiger replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
I looked up midway through the replay, but the little I saw looked like they made the right call. It shouldn't have been close though, you have to be pretty stupid to venture that far off second on a line drive to left. -
ALCS: White Sox Defeat Angels 4-1
Transmogrified Tiger replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
ChiSox baserunning makes me laugh. -
his K/9 and BB/9 don't show nastiness. Not compared to the top closers. if 33/35 with a 1.85 era is not nasty i dont know what is. i would take dempster closing with his numbers over farnsworth's great k/9 & bb/9 any day. who cares how many he k's or walks as long as he gets the job done. Because the hits and walks are much better indicators of what he will do in the future than Save percentage or ERA(especially for relievers).
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Milton Bradley por favor.
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not a free agent, but definitely an interest in trade talks, but the nats should stick with church, wilkerson, guillen if they were smart. But we know they arent so id ask. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Free_Agents_2005-2006_season guillen a free agen with a club OPTION for 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5753
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What?!?!?!? I know 2b is a more offensive position but you are talking about getting rid of a guy who will make ~3M and has averaged 850 OPS and 16/20 in SB over his first 3 full major league seasons. Yeah, thats not talent. Think of it this way. Giles + Draft pick compensation + 7M (difference between their salaries) > Furcal + trade return for Giles. fixed, remember we are talking about an extremely cash strapped org here. I guess it all depends on who you get for Giles, but for the money they would save they could pick up a pretty good pitcher and another arm for the pen, both areas that need addressing. Unless they can fix both of those cheaply in a Giles trade, I dont see it making them a better ball club. JeffH was talking about talent level, which to me is indpendent of salary implications(of course excepting the one that forces them to choose between Furcal and Giles).
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Guillen is not a free agent. His option was picked up by the Nats during the season. Nor is he a headcase, and I wouldn't mind him at a corner OF spot at all.
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What?!?!?!? I know 2b is a more offensive position but you are talking about getting rid of a guy who will make ~3M and has averaged 850 OPS and 16/20 in SB over his first 3 full major league seasons. Yeah, thats not talent. Think of it this way. Giles + Draft pick compensation < Furcal + trade return for Giles.
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Furthermore, do you know what close and late is? It IS THE PRESSURE SITUATIONS. FARNSWORTH PERFORMS THE SAME IN THOSE SITUATIONS AS HE DOES IN ANY OTHER SITUATION. But let's take 2 playoff outings and paint Farnsworth as a chokeaholic. What about the 1.2 innings he pitched in a tie game to keep us in the game during Game 1 of the NLCS? Came in with a runner on first, one out and the heart of the order due up. He K'd two guys to end the inning, then got Cabrera, Conine, and Encarnacion in the 8th to keep the score tied. Pretty clutch if you ask me. Same thing in the NLDS Game 1 for '03. He came in with the bases loaded, 2 outs then K'd the guy, and mowed down the Braves the next inning for good measure. Was he a choking dog then? So, if we're going to use two playoff outings to paint Farnsworth as "gutless" and "Calvin Schraldi in tight pants", then I say these two outings qualify him for best postseason pitcher of all time.
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Kenny Lofton - BABIP. A question.
Transmogrified Tiger replied to swordsman's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Basically, I'm pretty sure it's an age thing, BABIP is like AVG in that it deteriorates with age for the same reasons. Someone else can likely explain better than I. Relating to Lofton, he was in a decline before this year, and had been around a .300 BABIP for about 6 years. This year, .365. As you can see, it's well out of line for what he's been doing since his Cleveland days. That's why some(myself included) are predicting a precipitous decline for Mr. Kenny.
