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  1. Robert Quinn would have been one but he missed the Bears game vs. Minnesota. Eagles already had their bye and he played for them last Sunday. Quinn played 50 snaps against Minnesota, he just didn't register anything in the box score. He could be the first 18 gamer since they standardized the schedule. I looked up players who have played 17 games (when it was a 16 game schedule). Crazily, Jerry Rice is one of 8 who played with a bye. When he famously was traded from the Raiders to the Seahawks late in his career (I totally remember him on the Seahawks**). Emmanuel Sanders most recently did it in 2019 when traded from Broncos to 49ers. He also played in the SB, so he played 20 games that year. ** I don't, seen pictures of him in the jersey, but had no idea he ever played for them.
  2. As long as Poles doesn't have to be convinced of the same. Pretty funny though that Ballard wasn't apparently in the business of top 8 LB, but a Guard? No problem! To be fair, he was the best guard prospect I've ever seen. And he was the best OG in the league. Not sure what has happened to him last year and a half, injuries?
  3. I'd still pick WR in the first 2 rounds. Actually still leaning toward 1st round. I think you can find OL and DL in Free agency. The Bears still don't have a stud #1 WR. Best way is to take one and take one early in the draft.
  4. Yeah, I think this is all coming together. I know people were skeptical about what the team thought about Fields being that they gave him nothing to work with. I know people were skeptical about the defensive coaching hire. But as I said all offseason, I think Poles believed in Fields, he just wasn't going to bet his career on him succeeding by going HAM year 1. Fields has shown enough, so far. And the defensive hire makes sense now that they are seemingly going all-in on Fields. Poles will hopefully add the talent there. Eberflus will be able to get the talent and mold them the way he wants. Sunday really opened my eyes. IDK if I said this here or twitter, but we all want Fields to throw 50 times in a game to see what happens, and Dallas was the opportunity to do so. They were behind big, he was playing well. But they didn't because I really felt for the first time they were protecting him from a fierce pass rush instead of protecting him from mistakes or playing to not lose. Taking him out of the game late really sealed the deal that they were doing this. I actually smiled when I saw Siemien on the field. This staff knows they can't drop Fields back 50 times and keep him upright all season.
  5. To play devil's advocate, we saw this approach under Trestman. Best offense the Bears have had and a historically bad defense ruined the season. The Bears have a ways to go to get to a 20ppg, 5 y/p defense after losing Roquan. Quinn isn't a big factor, but Smith was....and they already needed pretty much everything else on the front 7. But yeah, I don't care about a crippled defense in a rebuilding season. But they are going to have to put significant resources into that side of the ball this offseason as well. Not just on the offensive side.
  6. As been previously stated this move is an affirmation that Fields has shown enough, and it is awesome. Think I saw something about Pringle returning to practice this week, believe, we've at most, two more games with Pettis as a Bear. Poles will still probably pick a WR on day 2, press conference yesterday, mentioned surrounding Justin with as many weapons as possible. I wouldn't be opposed to that. We know that Mooney and Claypool are starting caliber WR's in the NFL. I can't say any of the others fall into that category. We hope Harry will be one, but he was let go for next to nothing for a reason. I surely hope Poles was the smartest guy in the room when he took a chance on Harry and Leatherwood. Playing time will tell. I don't think Harry and Leatherwood were about him being smart. It's low risk, high-reward moves for former 1st round picks that may have been in bad situations. Belichick is weird, he may have just not liked Harry for whatever reason. Leatherwood did get chances, but maybe the Raiders didn't have a scheme fit for him? IDK, but those are moves a bad team should make 100x out of 100.
  7. Lot of bodies. Mooney is gonna play. Claypool is gonna play. They kind of need to see what they have in Velus and Harry. But St. Brown has kind of earned a right to play. Pettis has the highest YPC on the team and lead in TD receptions. Pringle was productive last year for KC and they had hopes for him, but probably no reason to give him a ton of reps at this point, he has 0 chance of being back in 2023. If the NE and DAL games are an indication, Harry has passed St Brown already. Probably still 12-18 snaps for him, but not much more. Man, I was never a fan of Pringle signing. I know you can't predixt injuries, but what a waste. It wound up costing the Bears a 3rd or 4th round comp too. I was fine with the signing. The lack of OL help is and was the reason to be upset this offseason.
  8. They can't get the ball down the field. They have Bears level OL talent and their QBs have noodle arms. They were doing that out of necessity to get him the ball. From a 14.5 ypc career guy to about 9 this year. I don't see any reason he can't be that 14ypc guy again right away. There's no way Trubisky and Pickett are more noodle armed then end of career Ben right? No, probably not. But Ben had a better OL too. I think it's the combination of the two that's the issue now.
  9. Who are you considering the 3rd? Harry. I'm on the bandwagon already, yes. Don't even hate St. Brown as the 4th even. Can Velus earn the 5th WR gadget role over Pettis? Would help if he could be trusted to field punts. Does Pringle have a role when he gets healthy? Lot of bodies. Mooney is gonna play. Claypool is gonna play. They kind of need to see what they have in Velus and Harry. But St. Brown has kind of earned a right to play. Pettis has the highest YPC on the team and lead in TD receptions. Pringle was productive last year for KC and they had hopes for him, but probably no reason to give him a ton of reps at this point, he has 0 chance of being back in 2023.
  10. They can't get the ball down the field. They have Bears level OL talent and their QBs have noodle arms. They were doing that out of necessity to get him the ball. From a 14.5 ypc career guy to about 9 this year. I don't see any reason he can't be that 14ypc guy again right away.
  11. I now wish the Smith/Claypool trades happened a week ago so Chase could be up to speed for this one. The Dolphins pass D is atrocious. 275 yards per game with a 100 QB rating against. Just allowed 300 yards to Goff. Allowed 300 to Lamar running the same offense Fields has in the last 2. The Dolphins haven't rushed the passer very well either. Chubb will help with that, but not sure how much this week. Assuming he doesn't get 50-60 reps, the Bears may be able to protect Fields much better than they have the last few weeks. They've faced some of the best pass rushes in the last 3-4 games. If ever there was a game where Justin throws 35 times.....
  12. Anyone have the broadcast maps for this one?
  13. I posted my thoughts on the Claypool trade in the Week 8 gamethread. But it's also pretty telling that they didn't trade Montgomery. Doesn't necessarily mean they are going to try to keep him into next year, but they clearly didn't want to give up any asset on Justin Fields' side of the field. The optics side of these deals is beautiful.
  14. They overpaid by giving up THEIR 2nd instead of the Ravens' 2nd. I probably wouldn't have given up more than the early 3rd, but I guess Green Bay thought they had him this morning and the Bears had to up which 2nd they offered to get the deal done and keep him from Green Bay. Don't love the trade or the player. But the player is decent and I LOVE the insinuation that this regime is 100% behind Fields and are making a move to get him some professional WR help. There simply isn't a better guy available in free agency this offseason. And this gets Fields some help RIGHT NOW. They were going to have to trade for a WR at some point between now and next August, better that they got this done now. Let's go out and lose some more 40-30 games!
  15. Id take Jerry Jeudy as well.
  16. He actually used more of them last year. So, I wouldn't necessarily say they won't use them all.
  17. Where'd you see that?
  18. Ironically, just "started" on Thursday for the first time all year (5th start since 2020). But he only played 15 snaps (4 tackles, 1 TFL is a good ratio)
  19. Yeah, the guys who would be available would be WRs who are due for new contracts either due to end of rookie deals or because they signed a few years ago and the market has reset itself. And the rookie deal guys would have to be on teams that either have other expensive WRs or a really big QB contract on the books. Guys that are nearing the end of their rookie deals: Tee Higgins (Burrow and Jamar going to get real expensive soon), Jerry Jeudy (Wilson, Sutton, Patrick), Brandon Aiyuk (Deebo, but Jimmy G will be gone), Calvin Ridley (cap is a mess from Ryan), Michael Pittman (would probably have to be a tear down), Chase Claypool (Johnson), Gabriel Davis (Allen, Diggs), and Donovan People-Jones (Cooper, Watson). There's not really any guys in the latter category. All the big WR deals were recently signed or the players who signed a couple years ago, aren't deserving of top money anymore (Golladay, Michael Thomas, Mike Evans-age). I've heard whispers that Keenan Allen could be made available this offseason, but yuck, I'll pass on that. He's not great and 30. None of those guys are at Hill, Brown, Diggs levels, but that's probably a good thing as they'd cost less to trade for. Oh the other guy is DJ Moore. But not certain they want to part that early on. Would probably be steep. 2023 and 2024 second? Ah yeah, forgot about him.
  20. Jackson? I wonder what kind of value they can get for him while he's hot. That would be a bigger shock than Roquan. I do think it would involve eating some money and the other team likely voiding his deal as well. But it's certainly a possible move. BTW, I don't know if anyone noticed but after Quinn was traded they said they would name another permanent captain to take his place. Jackson had the [C] on his chest yesterday (noticed on the INT). This would make 3 defensive captains traded in a week. LOL. One thing that would do I guess is let me know they are all about building around Fields by gutting the money on D.
  21. Yeah, the guys who would be available would be WRs who are due for new contracts either due to end of rookie deals or because they signed a few years ago and the market has reset itself. And the rookie deal guys would have to be on teams that either have other expensive WRs or a really big QB contract on the books. Guys that are nearing the end of their rookie deals: Tee Higgins (Burrow and Jamar going to get real expensive soon), Jerry Jeudy (Wilson, Sutton, Patrick), Brandon Aiyuk (Deebo, but Jimmy G will be gone), Calvin Ridley (cap is a mess from Ryan), Michael Pittman (would probably have to be a tear down), Chase Claypool (Johnson), Gabriel Davis (Allen, Diggs), and Donovan People-Jones (Cooper, Watson). There's not really any guys in the latter category. All the big WR deals were recently signed or the players who signed a couple years ago, aren't deserving of top money anymore (Golladay, Michael Thomas, Mike Evans-age). I've heard whispers that Keenan Allen could be made available this offseason, but yuck, I'll pass on that. He's not great and 30. None of those guys are at Hill, Brown, Diggs levels, but that's probably a good thing as they'd cost less to trade for.
  22. Nah, if anything that had 0 effect on anything. I think this was the plan the whole time. Get rid of guys not in the long-term plans. I just figured Roquan was in their plans.
  23. Id' say Deron Payne >>> Roquan Smith perhaps, that'll be one place the money will be spent. Yeah, but what happens if Payne is tagged? Not to mention, he'll have the ability to sign anywhere else as well. Obviously, the Bears have the most money to offer, but far from a given they can even get him.
  24. Love getting another top 60 pick. The elephant in the room here is Josh Allen, Tua, and Hurts all started to show they were turning the corners at this point in Year 2 and all were able to add an elite WR before Year 3. Have to wonder if Poles is setting up a similar situation. I just have no idea who that WR would be or if Poles even would be willing to make such a move that isn't building thru the draft.
  25. Wow. I didn't expect that at all. Nobody is safe. 100% trade Montgomery now. I'm guessing a lot of the defensive issues yesterday was short week, combined with travel, combined with deflation from Quinn being traded. Can't imagine the defense is any better against Miami of all teams.
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