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Agreed. The last staff had 0 experience to fall back on. The GM, HC, OC, and DC were all 1st timers. Most of their staff was in roles for the 1st time as well. At the least, this is the anti Bears of the last 2 years. I will say, IDC about the RB coach thing. Brown was supposedly one of McVay's top guys who absorbed a lot in LA. He also isn't a QB coach, so they have that guy and the OC that can have positive impacts on the rookie. I don't exactly know what the PGC does, but even if it's developing passing concepts, creating and exploiting mismatches and things like that, that's probably going to have a positive impact. But most likely, we won't know his impact on the QB. If the QB is good, his impact will be viewed positively.
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You gave 5, one of which was passing yards. Another was QBR which was a made up stat by ESPN that tells us that Joe Burrow has never been a top 10 QB in the league. And the 2 stats I gave supported YOUR side, one was QB wins, which is not as dumb as using passing yards for a 120 attempt difference. But you know all this and continue to argue because you are Kyle. And I commented without making fun of you or a health condition, because I can disagree with an adult.
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How was I wrong? You gave 2 viable stats, ignoring literally every other one that favored Fields. And nobody is saying any of the horsefeathers you think "people want" to do. All I'm saying is he's AT WORST the same as Gardner Minshew, and that it's very stupid to want to pay Minshew potentially 2-3x as much money in 2024, because that literally means you just are going off of vibes and style of play. Fields really is that bad. Minshew really is just as bad, if not marginally worse, and will cost more money.
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So it IS a vibes/style thing?
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QBR isn't a real stat. Passing yards is a counting stat, which you know better than to use for a guy with 120 more passing attempts.
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***should be noted that I do NOT want to stay with Fields.
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I mean, it's no more shackling than Minshew would be. In fact, one could argue it's less of a shackle to stay with Fields and his 3.23M cash amount in 2024, (if you decline his 5th year option) than it would be to get Gardner Minshew, who certainly would want a significant pay raise from his 3.5M salary after starting 1 3 games, Also worth noting, Fields was better in every metric across the board, other than 0.8% completion percentage and QB wins, if you care about that sort of thing.
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I mostly agree with you. But why does it make sense to likely pay more to sign Minshew to play QB than stick with Fields?
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He's shown that it will be quick and accurate at times. But even if he's never better at processing than Fields is, he has a MUCH quicker release which makes being a tick late easier to overcome.
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Exactly! He was still a top 10 (mostly top 5) QB in every category. He was always going to have an impossible bar set for him after winning the Heisman as a sophomore. That's why only 1 person has won it twice, and nobody in the last 50 years has.
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So, I do think Fields has a HOF level ceiling. Before anyone kills me, he does have historic rushing ability and has shown it. If he can somehow continue to channel that without getting hurt and have all his flaws hidden by a pretty good deep ball, he could have that ceiling. The problem is, after 3 years, there's almost a 0 chance of him hitting anything near his ceiling. And nobody has run as much as him and stayed healthy or overcome flaws with a slow trigger to that level.
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Yes, 10th most 12 personnel, but not a big scheme TEs open type of playcaller. Maybe that would be different with a talent like Pitts and a solid weapon better than he's had at TE in Kmet, but in general, Waldron still likes to get the ball outside and down the field.
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Waldron probably got a huge edge for being a former playcaller for a defensive HC. Kubiak and Robinson were maybe more inspiring, but they don't have playcalling experience at the NFL level. After Getsy, it's no wonder they valued experience.
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https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1749413932719063449?s=20
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1.03 was just traded for last year. Texans gave up 1.12, a 2nd last year (33rd overall) and a future 1st and 3rd for 1.03 and a 4th rounder. In our wildest dreams, Fields has the value of a high 2nd and a future 3rd. Then there's still that future 1st. Granted, you would be giving them a pick 3 picks higher than the trade last year, but unless they absolutely adore Fields and hate every other QB after Williams and Maye, that doesn't seem like nearly enough in return for the Pats.
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I'd be OK with taking Carr back, they'd probably have to give up their 1st for that cap relief though, so IDK if the Saints would be good with that.
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Yeah, mostly speculation. But seems like he wanted to say more but didn't want to talk trash about the kid so he made it more about "he won't be happy with Bear football" type stuff. But the implication that he isn't a team first guy is there.
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There's been a couple whispers here and there that Caleb isn't much of a team guy. But if he's good, IDK if that really matters. Aaron Rodgers wasn't a team guy for years in GB. Story came out from their OC today that he would change the play so often that they didn't remember what the play was supposed to be. I've known a couple NFL players as well and I've heard stories about star players being "unapproachable" and not very team friendly.
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Former NFL QB, Brock Huard's brother, Luke, is the WR coach at USC. Brock says the Bears should "beware" of Caleb. Cited some stuff like he doesn't like the ball taken out of his hands, a personal ahead of team type guy.
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Seems like me and you are the only ones that would like Kingsbury. I don't see if happening, but very happy they interviewed, even if it's to get intel on Caleb with his WR coach's brother coming out and saying crap about him.
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I'd slot Roman between groveling to Luke Getsy and begging him to take his job back and sending Mike Martz a "hey big head" text.
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Lacking weapons has led to an 11-6 record and the divisional playoff round for KC. Chiefs aren't an argument that lacking weapons matters.
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Here's a good Twitter thread on taking a QB #1 over not taking a QB #1 https://x.com/DaveKluge/status/1747397129138479457?s=20
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Definitely not interested in Fields: BUF, NYJ, MIA, HOU, JAX, IND, CLE, CIN, BAL, KC, LAC, PHI, DAL, GB, MIN, DET, SF, ARZ Probably not interested in Fields: WAS (bc of having pick 2), TEN (Levis was decent enough), NYG (paying Jones), LAR (Stafford showed still some in tank), SEA (Geno can be cut, but makes more sense to draft and bridge Geno), TB (Baker will get re-signed), CAR (awkward, lol) That leaves: NE, PIT, LV, DEN, ATL, and NO as options. And Carr has a ton of dead money left so they are probably stuck with him.
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Steelers don't have much of a history of bold moves at QB like Fields would be. I think the Raiders are a decent fit. They have some pieces there in Adams, Meyers and Jacobs, assuming they re-sign him. They do still have a large cap hit for Jimmy G, but Fields isn't a big hit and they already benched Jimmy this year so that's obviously not a huge issue for them. I also like the thought of Fields playing indoors, make him that much faster, I guess. Other than that, Falcons, Patriots, and Broncos make sense as well.
