what? +1. Eh? Case in point, it takes more than muscles to hit Homeruns. how long was Barry allegedly on the drug? We don't know Did Barry use anything other than "the Clear" or "the Cream" for any legitamite period of time? We don't know. So just stop accusing Bonds of everything that you can't prove damnit. Yes Bonds was on insulin, EPO, and horse/cow steroids in addition to the cream and clear from at least 2001-2003, the biggest years of his career. You don't think we know? The evidence is far beyond a reasonable doubt. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/03/06/growth0313/index.html Yes it takes more than muscles to hit homeruns. But when you add steroids to his already hall of fame ability, you get monster numbers. These numbers skyrocketed after hsi career was winding down. Why did he take them? He was jealous of Sammy and McGwire. Bottom Line: He NEVER failed a steroid test in his life. He's the only player in both the 400-400 club and 500-500 club, that's amazing. I'm ending all arguements on my side. Except that it's not the bottom line when we have a mountain of documentation and Grand Jury testimony that shows he did use steroids, along with other performance enhancers. We've got the exact drugs that were taken, the schedule he was on for each drug, the testimony of others who say he took them, under oath mind you. You would have to literally shove your head in the sand to believe he didn't use. The people who leaked the testimony did JAIL TIME for doing it -- think that happens when it was faked? Again, Barry's one of the greatest even without the drugs. But there's so little question he used it isn't even funny.