Projects should never turn into Chris Carpenter. He's another good example of this. Carp was mired in mediocrity in TOR -- his ERA+ from those days looks pretty much like Marquis to me. 91, 106, 112, 79, 116, 85......just bobbing up above the 100 mark occasionally, and then tanking well below in other seasons. Then he comes off devastating arm surgery to put up this: 121, 151, 143. Mediocre pitcher, devastating arm surgery........then suddenly Cy Young?? Who else has ever done this? It's not at all shocking that Carpenter rebounded as well as he did. He had great stuff before surgery, was a first round pick and a solid prospect. I'm with abuck. How dare you side against me!! J/K, I know he had great stuff. Lots of guys have great stuff though, and don't make it. Here's what I wish: that we were smart enough to pick up Carp instead of the Cards 8-) Not the follow-up deal, though...