There's not much value in finishing 4th. That's not a biased opinion. It's what most of America believes, and probably what the majority of sports writers will determine. Maybe the majority of people are wrong, and you're right. It's not out of the question. "Value" is ambiguous, though. It's not necessarily black & white. And I'm not sure that Pujols had better teammates around him (other than the pitching). He spent much of the season with people like So Taguchi and Yadier Molina hitting behind him. I'm sure he would have preferred the protection of Aramis Ramirez, and might have benefitted from it. The Cubs finished 4th not Lee, you know those other 24 players who had an impact in that. I am amazed at your inability to not separate the two concepts. Did Ernie Banks, Billy Williams, Ron Santo, etc. have any value throughout their careers? There's a boatload of value of what did Lee for the Cubs this year, it is moronic to think otherwise. Value is black & white, when the other factors besides production are non-existant. What did Pujols do to make his better beyond his production on the field? What did Lee do to make his team worse on the field despite his production? Here we go again with these damn hypotheticals... I don't know how Pujols would've done if Walker would've stayed healthy behind Pujols or if LaRussa put Edmonds there. How would Lee have done if he had decent hitters hitting in front of him instead of Perez? Who the hell knows, who the hell cares. I do know that Lee was the best player and also the most productive in 2005. Now, if you want to factor the 24 other players as well as the coaching staff (unless you think Larussa=Baker), go right ahead, you'll be wrong. The writers would be wrong if they gave the MVP to anyone other than Lee, I don't care if 1,000 of them voted for Pujols and I was the only one voting for Lee.