I haven't been following torres for as long as most of you (so less of a bias towards keeping him I suppose), but I would trade him and vogelbach for miller in a heartbeat. There's no place for vogelbach on the team, and torres is 2-3 years away from impacting the major league roster, if he does at all. If those two are what it takes to replace Clayton Richard with Andrew Miller on this year's team, count me in.